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http://www.washingtonpost.com/local...2bb7cc-96e4-11e4-8005-1924ede3e54a_story.html

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way...illion-for-underreporting-deaths-and-injuries

Honda got fined an unprecedented $70 million dollars today, $35 million of which was for unreported Takata airbag deaths, but the other $35 million was for NOT REPORTING CONSUMER INJURIES, CONSUMER COMPLAINTS AND WARRANTY REPAIRS to the Transportation Safety Board. That is how they kept stats of problems so low. They did not even know they were being investigated. This article is in Reuters, the Chicago Tribune, and on TV news.

"The Justice Department can open a criminal investigation, as it did with Toyota, which can lead to billion-dollar fines," said Ditlow. "And that's an amount of money that's enough to make even the largest auto company sit-up."
 

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Saw that and posted a comment about it yesterday in the "future Ridgeline" thread. The more I learn about Honda, the more discouraged I become.
 

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I think the most disappointing part is that false sense of security, comfort, and trust that I and millions of others buyers have had in Honda. The leadership problems, attitudes, quality control issues, lagging development, and other issues that are becoming apparent show that Honda has as many or more problems than some other manufacturers. If they don't get a quick handle on this, then I might as well go back to GM.
 

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The back window spontaneously shattered without external cause on my '07. Honda refused to even look at it. My insurance ended up replacing it. I wrote and called Honda several times, but never received a single response. Literally. Nothing but the sound of crickets. I probably should have abandoned Honda back then.
 

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I am glad they were fined for these things. I wonder whether the amount is sufficient to make it a good business practice for Honda, or anyone else, to try harder in the future. Hopefully there are at least one or two people somewhere high up who care about more than just the business side of things.
 

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From the WSJ article.

Honda, which blamed the underreporting on “inadvertent data entry or computer programming errors,” faced fines of $7,000 per day per violation, a maximum civil penalty of $35 million for failure to report the deaths and injuries. It was fined another $35 million for failing to report warranty claims to federal regulators.
Rosekind said the Department of Transportation would seek to have the maximum fine per violation increased to $300 million.


Oh those nasty programmers and data entry clerks. They must be at the root of all evil.
 

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Interesting article below..

http://blog.caranddriver.com/honda-...eaths-injuries-from-exploding-airbag-recalls/

Acura: 2002–2003 TL; 2002 CL; 2003–2006 MDX

Honda (approximately 5.4 million, including Acura): 2001–2007 Accord (four-cylinder); 2001–2002 Accord (V-6); 2001–2005 Civic; 2002–2006 CR-V; 2002–2004 Odyssey; 2003–2011 Element; 2003–2007 Pilot; 2006 Ridgeline

http://blog.caranddriver.com/massiv...now-including-full-list-of-affected-vehicles/

I have two vehicles in the recall.
 

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You can take it to the dealer. There are a number here who have already had the part(s) replaced. That said there is still a open question as to whether or not the parts being used to replace the defective ones have been reengineered in any significant way. Basically, other than being newer, are the replacement parts a real fix??
 
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