Good point.
@zroger73, does your (doubled) insurance premium include your FSD additional upgrade, or is your insurance company not aware of this added feature?
Just wondering if your premium would be even higher, otherwise.
I ordered a Tesla Model Y
Two weeks ago, I had no exit strategy for either my '21 Ridgeline or '19 Miata. The Miata will probably be with me for a long time and I planned to keep the Ridgeline until the third generation went on sale.
Then, I read about Tesla dropping the price on the Model Y by 20% on the 13th and it qualifies for a $7,500 federal tax credit. Knowing that my brother-in-law planned to buy a Model Y in the future, I let him know that now might be a good time and he placed an order on January 15th.
I was tempted, but I hovered over the "place order" button for several days before finally clicking it on January 20th.
My original estimated delivery date was "Jan - Mar 2023". This was unnerving because the $7,500 tax credit is only guaranteed until March 1st at which time is may be reduced to $3,750.
The Model Y currently qualifies for the full $7,500 credit because it is made in the US. The Panasonic 2170 cells it uses are also made in the US. What might prevent it from qualifying for the full $7,500 credit as soon as March 1st is if less than 40% of the critical minerals used in those cells are sourced outside the US or a free trade partner. In this case, the credit will drop to $3,750. There is also a possibility that details will be delayed and the full credit will remain in effect.
This evening, the estimated delivery date was updated to "March 3 - March 31" making this even more suspenseful. Since the vehicle is unlikely to arrive before the March 1st, it may or may not qualify for the full $7,500 tax credit.
While the 20% price drop alone may be enough to encourage some buyers to order one, it was the price drop and the $7,500 tax credit that prompted to do so. Without the full credit, I'm less interested in taking delivery. If I don't, the most I'm out is a $250 nonrefundable order fee.
If I end up with the Model Y, I'll likely sell my Ridgeline since I only have space for two vehicles in my garage.
To be continued...
Then, I read about Tesla dropping the price on the Model Y by 20% on the 13th and it qualifies for a $7,500 federal tax credit. Knowing that my brother-in-law planned to buy a Model Y in the future, I let him know that now might be a good time and he placed an order on January 15th.
I was tempted, but I hovered over the "place order" button for several days before finally clicking it on January 20th.
My original estimated delivery date was "Jan - Mar 2023". This was unnerving because the $7,500 tax credit is only guaranteed until March 1st at which time is may be reduced to $3,750.
The Model Y currently qualifies for the full $7,500 credit because it is made in the US. The Panasonic 2170 cells it uses are also made in the US. What might prevent it from qualifying for the full $7,500 credit as soon as March 1st is if less than 40% of the critical minerals used in those cells are sourced outside the US or a free trade partner. In this case, the credit will drop to $3,750. There is also a possibility that details will be delayed and the full credit will remain in effect.
This evening, the estimated delivery date was updated to "March 3 - March 31" making this even more suspenseful. Since the vehicle is unlikely to arrive before the March 1st, it may or may not qualify for the full $7,500 tax credit.
While the 20% price drop alone may be enough to encourage some buyers to order one, it was the price drop and the $7,500 tax credit that prompted to do so. Without the full credit, I'm less interested in taking delivery. If I don't, the most I'm out is a $250 nonrefundable order fee.
If I end up with the Model Y, I'll likely sell my Ridgeline since I only have space for two vehicles in my garage.
To be continued...
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Haha! So, if I understand that correctly, EVs have tire emissions while ICE vehicles have tire and engine emissions?
Gotcha.
I see that my Model Y weighs (4,555 lbs.) almost exactly what my Ridgeline weighed (4,510 lbs. + junk in the trunk).
I only live here and that did not ever happen but I’m sure people outside the state know better. With All the Tesla drivers in California, thank goodness that never takes place there 🙄. I mean I’m sure the virtuous experts know better than us actual residents 🙄It will be fun to watch all the Texas Telsa owner deciding if they want a vehicle or air conditioning when the electric grid does rolling blackouts in Texas as it has the last 3 years.
Me, I drive a 2022 Hybrid CR-V - I make my own electricity for the CR-V. Averaging 41 MPG vs 29 MPG on my 2016 CR-V.
As for EV emissions - the manufacturing of the batteries for a Tesla release more carbon than ICE do over their lifetime.
How much CO2 is emitted by manufacturing batteries?
It depends exactly where and how the battery is made—but when it comes to clean technologies like electric cars and solar power, even the dirtiest batteries emit less CO2 than using no battery at all.climate.mit.edu
It could and probably has happened! It is my understanding that the vehicle can still be driven even without a display since the accelerator and shift lever are connected to the drive units and not the "car computer". The Autopilot computer actually has two identical computers so one can take over if the other fails and they must both agree before certain actions are performed. There is also some redundancy in some of the other systems as well from what I understand. You could even lose a front or rear motor or inverter and the other can still propel the vehicle, albeit with reduced power.
I was entertained by this message on the Tesla app during the software update last night - "Vehicle is rebooting".
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I was entertained by this message on the Tesla app during the software update last night - "Vehicle is rebooting".
You can blame the EPA for that one. Their fuel economy standards reward vehicles with larger footprints. I'm surprised no one has brought this to the attention of the current administration.What about the increases in car sizes and trucks over the years, crickets. Oh, wait the F-150 is aluminum, got it.
Score 1 for the hybrids!
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