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So, Honda unveiled the 2018 Odyssey yesterday with a number of improvements.

One of which was the debut of new software for the slow, sluggish infotainment system that we are all too familiar with.
For those of you with experience with Honda and software upgrades, is this upgrade something that we can request from our dealer when we go in for service?

2018 Honda Odyssey Photos and Info ? News ? Car and Driver
 

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Interesting, but not sure about compatibility as it mentions it "brings back the volume knob". Seems to also tie into the infotainment system with "CabinTalk" and rear seat cameras. Hopefully the underlying operating system can upgrade at least the last generation of systems.
 

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Other than the Navigation Maps, Honda has never offered any software updates on it's entertainment devices.

My bet is "not only no update but never any update - if we did you would not buy next years fixes."
 

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Other than the Navigation Maps, Honda has never offered any software updates on it's entertainment devices.

My bet is "not only no update but never any update - if we did you would not buy next years fixes."
Updates are much easier to do now, at least in the higher trims. Joe indicated that Honda could push updates via satellite, if needed. I'd think it'd be very easy to do over home WiFi, also.

To not do it for reasons of forcing a vehicle upgrade would be a very wrong-headed strategy on Honda's part. Smarter folks, the ones Honda would want to retain longterm, would see right through that strategy and migrate to a different brand.
 

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Smarter folks, the ones Honda would want to retain longterm, would see right through that strategy and migrate to a different brand.
Or migrate to a different head unit that doesn't support HondaLink, something Honda hopes will drive business.

Really, the screen is just tablet, being the UI between the operator and the hardware. Honda could easily update the drivers and software, making it look however they want; or even give the option for user skins. The question is, is the slowness the software or the chips used in the hardware? Would more powerful software actually slow it down? They likely won't make an OS backwards compatible as the would likely slow things down for newer hardware and they aren't likely to support two operating systems for different years. While your iPad and iPhone will take a couple of OS updates, eventually they are no longer compatible with the next OS version.
 

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Other than the Navigation Maps, Honda has never offered any software updates on it's entertainment devices.

My bet is "not only no update but never any update - if we did you would not buy next years fixes."

I think they are changing this. The 16 civic has has had software updates via TSB...And a quick search showed that at least one was infotainment related.

My 14 Mazda received several updates to infotainment over the first couple of years. Mostly bug fixes, but some enhancements too.

It would surprise me if they don't release any updates for the ridgeline...But I doubt a full refresh or major change other than bug fixes.
 

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You guys think it would be worth a thread to post our software versions per our models? Just to compare this? Maybe it could tell us which models and owners are at higher revs?
 

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Hondapro Jason (I think, or maybe another NAIAS video) mentioned that the new software is in-house Honda-made, which is why updates are easier to do that anyone can do it without going to the dealer. If this is so, it may not apply to our now apparently obsolete software.

I do like those editable shortcuts at the top of the screen and the home button on the steering wheel.
 

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You guys think it would be worth a thread to post our software versions per our models? Just to compare this? Maybe it could tell us which models and owners are at higher revs?

I think it would be worthwhile.

I did find a software update button in there, but it may be for non existent apps. I just find it strange that there are pages available for shortcuts for with no apps available. The calculator is cool, although I can't see ever using it.
 

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To be honest, I'm not sure if this tells anyone what they want to know.
* Hidden/Diagnostics menu (Simultaneous Press: Power, Menu, Brightness)

In there is a selection called Version:

For the '17 Black Edition: Screenshot is attached. I would imagine this would be different between Canadian and U.S., I'm not sure.
 

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I see all the room for "Apps" and have never found any to add or how to add them to the RL system. Would not expect them to have something stubbed out if they were not going to use it at some point. I need to get a new phone. My G3 keeps dropping the Bluetooth (known problem with the phone and some systems) which makes Android just about non usable.
 

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Infotainment Update?

I briefly had a 2016 Toyota Tacoma before I realized how crappy it was. The one nice thing about it, was that it would update its infotainment software over-the-air through ones cell phone.
Does Honda, more specifically does the Ridgeline have this same capability? Or do we have to have the dealerships update it for us? I'm hoping we eventually get an update to speed the system up a little.
 

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Welcome to the ROC,

I’m not holding my breath for any updates anytime soon. I’m also under the impression Honda would prefer to enable its dealers to upgrade the head unit code before enabling the owner.

Caveat this with the fact my newest Honda before my RL is a 2011 Odyssey.
 

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I briefly had a 2016 Toyota Tacoma before I realized how crappy it was. The one nice thing about it, was that it would update its infotainment software over-the-air through ones cell phone.
Does Honda, more specifically does the Ridgeline have this same capability? Or do we have to have the dealerships update it for us? I'm hoping we eventually get an update to speed the system up a little.
I also had a 2016 Tacoma for 10 months before realizing I really didn't need that much truck. I forgot how primitive the ride quality can be with a solid axle rear end. That coupled with a somewhat uncomfortable interior and a few other annoyances and I traded in for my RTL-E. What a nice vechicle!

I've also initially found the infotainment system to be a little bit slow, but I've gotten used to it and hardly even notice it now.
 

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Not sure if this will help much, but there is a touch screen sensitivity setting.

Setting Touchscreen Sensitivity
You can adjust the touchscreen’s sensitivity to your fingertip.
1. From the HOME screen, select Settings, then System.
2. Select Display, then Touch Panel Sensitivity.
 

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Not sure if this will help much, but there is a touch screen sensitivity setting.

Setting Touchscreen Sensitivity
You can adjust the touchscreen’s sensitivity to your fingertip.
1. From the HOME screen, select Settings, then System.
2. Select Display, then Touch Panel Sensitivity.
As a side note. I have my sensitivity set to the most sensitive. This, coupled with adding the Photodon screen saver has made the fingerprint issue a thing of the past.
 

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Joe mentioned that Honda has the capability to update the 8" HU "over the air". The bigger question would be if they actually implement that capability.
 

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I think they are too busy driving forward with new tech for newer models in other classes.

I drove an Elite Oddyssy last weekend, wow. The display was such high quality, and was super bright and has major pixel density.
If they do any updates to the ‘17 head unit it will be at some milestone point after the current model RL gets some trim refinement / uplift.

RTL-E and BE or future turbo “Type R’ rebrand to include the newer head unit, LED signaling mirrors, A/C seats, rear-seat climate Love (yes, I’m looking at you Canucks!)

Just my thought. Original models will receive a one-time bump to include multiple bug corrections, minor, very minor .xx android auto update, maybe?

I look so forward to being wrong about this, I really do. But how often would users expect any code update? Look at the swarm of Android devices in the wild that have never been updated.

Just not sure it is going to happen. This will be part of the next model iteration draw to get you to trade up or buy new.
 

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To be honest, I'm not sure if this tells anyone what they want to know.
* Hidden/Diagnostics menu (Simultaneous Press: Power, Menu, Brightness)

In there is a selection called Version:

For the '17 Black Edition: Screenshot is attached. I would imagine this would be different between Canadian and U.S., I'm not sure.

To revive the firmware question here are changes I have noticed. Not sure what order my pics will show up so the lower Application version number was on 2/27/2017 which was 4 days after taking delivery of my US RTL-E. Higher Application version screen was taken 4/20/2017 which was 2 days after my entire head unit was replaced. I do believe the Driver Distraction mode now allows some moving changes to be made. I can now add a Via in navigation or new destination while driving. I can now make audio setting changes, such as changing balance, tone, etc. My Garmin nav firmware did change to v2.14 from 2.07 (I think that was the old version). FWIW.

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