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Excellent write-up in your link as usual, Zrog.
I looked at a similar non-Si version locally in Jacksonville with the new 1.5T... did you have a chance to drive one of those during your search? If not, I'd be interested to hear your thoughts if you get a chance in the future.
I looked at a similar non-Si version locally in Jacksonville with the new 1.5T... did you have a chance to drive one of those during your search? If not, I'd be interested to hear your thoughts if you get a chance in the future.
zrog, I hear the Type R will be available locally pretty soon. $41k! Just curious if you looked at those?
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My brother had a 2016 Civic Touring sedan, so I was familiar with the basic package though not with a manual transmission. The Si's tires and exhaust make more noise and the ride is as stiff as a week-old Subway sandwich by comparison, but it's incredibly fun to drive. I haven't driven my Ridgeline in four days since I picked up the Si. The Ridgeline is a comfortable pleasure to drive, but the Si brings out another side of me that has been dormant for years. The Ridgeline is like getting a nice foot massage while sipping on a glass of wine on a sandy beach. The Si is like doing a shots of liquor at a dance club. Both are positive experiences - just in different ways.
Yup. Just a matter of weeks! I actually started looking at both the Si and Type R about the same time a couple of months ago. I decided against the Type R for a number of reasons:
1) Limited availability and dealer markup. I'm not going to fight over a car or pay more than MSRP.
2) I don't live anywhere near the Nurburgring.
3) It's likely too hardcore as a daily driver.
I might consider the Type R if they become common enough to be easy to find on demand and not marked up and prove to be drivable as a daily driver.
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Thanks! It's an absolute blast - a great, little package and nice value for the price.
Unlike with the Ridgeline, there are several Civic forums. It took a bit of research to find the best one, but I quickly found CivicX to be it. After a short learning curve, I grew quote fond of the XenForo forum software that CivicX uses - it kinda makes the ROC's vBulletin look and feel dated.
Unlike with the Ridgeline, there are several Civic forums. It took a bit of research to find the best one, but I quickly found CivicX to be it. After a short learning curve, I grew quote fond of the XenForo forum software that CivicX uses - it kinda makes the ROC's vBulletin look and feel dated.
I really like Honda's shade of red.. a nice touch of blue and not too much orange in it. Now why can't they put that color on the Pilot Pick-up Ridgeline?
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Now that Red would make a nice pickup truck!
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(I kind of feel like I'm stalking you today.. this is not intentional!)
I love your Si. We were thisclose to buying a blue one before the RL. I really wanted to get back the driver experience of a manual transmission and the speed/control of the Si. .. I'm determined to get that back some day.
I'm reminded that I just don't think the new Civics photograph well. In person I think they look super sweet, but in photos I just don't get the same vibe...
I'm going to sit over here super jealous of .. actually both your rides! lol I wanted a White RL but was in too much of a hurry to make a change.
I love your Si. We were thisclose to buying a blue one before the RL. I really wanted to get back the driver experience of a manual transmission and the speed/control of the Si. .. I'm determined to get that back some day.
I'm reminded that I just don't think the new Civics photograph well. In person I think they look super sweet, but in photos I just don't get the same vibe...
I'm going to sit over here super jealous of .. actually both your rides! lol I wanted a White RL but was in too much of a hurry to make a change.
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Haha! No worries. It's been interesting... I've received more attention and comments about this car in the month and 1,500 miles I've owned it than any other of the two dozen plus vehicles I've owned over the last three decades. Maybe this says something about those other two dozen plus vehicles I've owned?
Right after I bought it, a couple of kids ran up to it while I was parked at a restaurant and took photos. Once inside, I overheard them telling their grandpa all about it - poor guy was nowhere near as excited as they were. Just the other day while I was topping off the tank, an older gentleman asked me how I liked my Si, where I got it, what the gas mileage was, and complimented it. The downside is all the kids (old and young alike) that rev their engines at red lights and accelerate around trying to provoke me to race them. I'm actually glad I didn't buy a Type R - not only would it have attracted even more unwanted attention, but I might be more obliged to engage in some friendly competition with expensive consequences.I know of a new Aegean Blue Si sedan in Tyler, Texas that could be purchased pretty cheap right now. It's been on the lot for 32 days now and they recently got two more. Plus, the dealer received a storm of negative publicity last week regarding a shady Type R sale, so they're in "PR recovery mode" right now and are trying to kiss as much rear as they can.
The Si is incredibly fun and offers a lot of car for the price. It's shaping up to be my favorite all-time vehicle.
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Don't you tempt me! Anywhere in TX is too close for temptations like that
I completely understand your affection for the car. I cried the whole way home the night we traded our '08 Si Sedan in on the Crosstour. I ended up loving the CT, but that Si, much like my Prelude, will be tough for all future cars to compete with for me.
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I see you're in OK. The drive to Tyler, TX would probably be about the same as the drive I made between here and near Pine Bluff, AR to pick up my Si.Don't you tempt me! Anywhere in TX is too close for temptations like that
I completely understand your affection for the car. I cried the whole way home the night we traded our '08 Si Sedan in on the Crosstour. I ended up loving the CT, but that Si, much like my Prelude, will be tough for all future cars to compete with for me.
There's just something about the Si. I've never really been into sporty cars or economy cars, yet the Si is both. I've thought briefly about owning an Si in the past, but as silly as this sounds, the one reason that kept me away was the lack of automatic climate control. The 10th-generation Civic platform is quite impressive no matter the trim level. I'm excited to see how the 2018 Accord turns out here in a few months since it'll share the Civic's platform and include a version of the Type R's 2.0L turbocharged engine. I've never really been fond of turbocharged engines, either, but the Si has altered that perception.
Despite the Si's stiff suspension and narrow sidewall tires, its the tightest, most rattle-free Honda (or any other vehicle) I've ever owned. There's definitely plenty of road noise on rough pavement due to this setup, but the engine is incredibly smooth, refined, and quiet - dare I say as much or more so than the Ridgeline? I'm very satisfied with the Ridgeline, but I'm very impressed with the Civic.
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Just a couple thoughts, but what's your point in doing this? Are you wanting to save $/wear and tear by not driving your RL? Because you wont. Once you factor in the cost of the 2nd car, maintenance, license, taxes, and insurance, and not to mention unexpected repairs, you aren't saving anything. I did this for a while when we bought a new car for my wife, I thought I'd just keep her well-maintained CRV w/93k on the ODO as a daily driver. I did this for a couple months but came to realize that I was paying for three cars, but we were only driving two at any one time. Granted, I could see doing so if it was a specialty car/Motorcycle that are for enjoyment, but I think you'll find it's not as great as it seems, when you could be behind the wheel of your new RL.
Second, why a manual? Plenty of cheap automatics out there and you may find a larger selection out there. Just an FYI, we sold our 2003 CRV for $7500 (auto, and in excellent condition) the same night on FB, so the deals are out there.
Second, why a manual? Plenty of cheap automatics out there and you may find a larger selection out there. Just an FYI, we sold our 2003 CRV for $7500 (auto, and in excellent condition) the same night on FB, so the deals are out there.
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There've been several times in my life when I've owned multiple vehicles - usually a car and a truck.
Distance has more effect on maintenance costs than time. Tires, for example, don't wear out if they're not rolling (though they should be replaced after 6-10 years depending on who you ask).
Registration, taxes, and inspection costs are about $80 per year per vehicle (less than $7 per month) here in Texas. That's insignificant.
The Si costs me $70 per month to insure.
I don't normally keep vehicles beyond their factory warranties, so unexpected repair costs are a non-issue.
Both vehicles are paid for, so my ongoing cost to add the Si is about $77 per month.
My monthly fuel cost is about $100 for the Ridgeline alone and $70 per month for the Ridgeline and Si.
So, $77 - $30 = $47 per month (or less if fuel goes up)
Is the Si worth spending an extra $47 per month to me? Absolutely! It's so much more fun to drive than the Ridgeline. When I need room, utility, and comfort, I grab the keyfob for the Ridgeline. For daily driving, I grab the keyfob for the Si and enjoy the pull of the turbocharged engine as I row through the gears.
Don't get me wrong - I love my Ridgeline, but there are things it can't do and feelings it can't provide. It has a very gentle, boring, independent soul whereas the Si is fun, exciting, and interactive.
Wow, just a little late, as he asked the question almost a year ago, and has owned it for almost a month. I won't disagree, it's an additional cost, but depends on what you want and value.
Although not a Si, the wife and I purchased the Del Sol, the same month we got married and it is paid for, so it doesn't get the 3k miles a month as it did when we first purchased it. Two years ago it had 1200 miles for the year. But at $34 a month to insure and a best friend who has spare space in their garage, we still enjoy it.
Take last weekend, our 21st anniversary as a couple, I parked my Ridgeline at my friends house and picked up the Del Sol, I drove it Friday at lunch & home after work, changed the oil Saturday, cleaned the air filter, rotated the tires, checked the brakes, did a few other things. Saturday night went out to dinner in it, Roof Off. Sunday I took it out, down Cajon Blvd (Old Route 66), early 6am, drove back up I-15, AC on & Roof Off. The interstate part is 4th/5th and stay at or above 3k rpm, but the surface streets, to Cajon Blvd was working the 5sp all the way
Monday she wanted to drive it to work, I was off for pre-op stuff, so I took the Fit, boring CVT, 1.5l Earth Dreams, only nice thing is USB radio, can run WAZE & stream 97.1 The Ticket from Detroit.
Monday night we took the Roof Off after dinner, and drove up to Lake Arrowhead, to watch their fireworks & ran the heater until we were about 1/2 way back. Wednesday morning I fueled it up, adding fuel preserver, and parked it in my friends garage and picked up the Ridgeline
YMMV.
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"I'm reminded that I just don't think the new Civics photograph well. In person I think they look super sweet, but in photos I just don't get the same vibe..."
I've known some wimmin like that.
I've known some wimmin like that.
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The local Honda dealer took in white 2015 Civic Si coupe. This is the last year of the 9th generation and the last with VTEC and natural aspiration.
I saw it while I was driving through the lot this afternoon, but didn't take a closer look because I assumed it was older or higher mileage.
This evening, I looked it up on their website and found that it was purchased and owned locally, had one owner, has 18K miles, and the oil was changed every 5K miles at the dealer.
I think I'm going to offer them $15K for it. They're asking $20K and it's probably worth $17K.
It appears to be all-original and not riced out.
https://www.towerhonda.com/vehicle/...ivic-Coupe-Si-Premium-Unleaded-I-4-2-4-L-144/
I saw it while I was driving through the lot this afternoon, but didn't take a closer look because I assumed it was older or higher mileage.
This evening, I looked it up on their website and found that it was purchased and owned locally, had one owner, has 18K miles, and the oil was changed every 5K miles at the dealer.
I think I'm going to offer them $15K for it. They're asking $20K and it's probably worth $17K.
It appears to be all-original and not riced out.
https://www.towerhonda.com/vehicle/...ivic-Coupe-Si-Premium-Unleaded-I-4-2-4-L-144/
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