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Re: May sells figures posted

No wonder some dealers are selling at invoice or +$500. Spring is hot car selling time. IF they can maintain this monthly pace, they sell +-$39,000, but word is they are manufacturing 80,000. Maybe dealers are getting a little nervous as to how these cars will move? :confused: On the other hand, it's a new model with great reviews. The question is, regardless of how great a car it is (and it is great), how many people will be attracted to the design and concept?
 

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Honda sales figures were TERRIBLE! Down 10% overall.

Here's a comment from the Chicago Sun-Times:

"Honda saw a 19 percent decline in its aging car lineup. But its trucks, including the new Honda Ridgeline pickup, saw a 14.3 percent increase over last May. Honda's sales are up less than 1 percent for the year. Sales percentages are adjusted for differences in the number of selling days."

The comment about Honda's "aging car lineup" is telling. Times are going to get tough pretty fast. Honda has let quality slip and sat on old platforms way too long.

The Ridgeline should have been the bright star in sales. It's a great vehicle, but maybe at the wrong time.
 

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The Ridgeline is a ground breaking, innovative vehicle that was marketed like an aging car.
 

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Look at the price on that Avalanche. :eek:
 

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Honda Ridgeline
Road test

Tested model: 2006 RTS crew cab AWD, 3.5-liter V6, 5-speed automatic
Tested tires: Michelin LTX M/S, size P245/65R17 105S

Highs: Ride, handling, powertrain refinement, rear seat, access, in-bed trunk, light dual-action tailgate, standard safety equipment and AWD, composite bed.
Lows: Road noise, turning circle.

The Ridgeline rewrites the book on pickups. It rides like a good sedan and has many innovations, including a tailgate that opens vertically or horizontally and a lockable trunk. Its roomy cab is nicely detailed and easy to access. While not designed for serious off-roading, it scaled our demanding rock hill.

THE DRIVING EXPERIENCE

The Ridgeline has a steady and comfortable ride. Bumps are muted and isolated. The ride is composed on the highway and didn't degrade when carrying a 500-pound load. It's quiet overall, with road noise being the most pronounced. Handling is agile, with well-restrained body lean. The steering is precise and well-weighted, and the truck is composed, even on washboard surfaces. The turning circle, however, is a wide 45 feet. At the track, the Ridgeline felt balanced. The standard ESC helped the truck in our avoidance maneuver. The Ridgeline's smooth, responsive, and quiet 255-hp, 3.5-liter V6 engine is mated to a five-speed automatic transmission. It took 20.5 seconds to pull a 5,000-pound trailer to 60 mph. Expect 15 mpg overall. The full-time all-wheel drive sends equal torque to the front and rear for added low-speed traction. It doesn't have the low-range gearing of traditional pickups, but was capable off-road. Overall braking was good, but stops were long. Headlight performance was very good.

INSIDE THE CABIN

Fit and finish is impeccable, with high-quality materials. The cab is roomy and drivers sit up high, with a good view forward. However, most complained that the tilt steering wheel was too far away. The supportive and very comfortable power front seats feature adjustable lumbar and good thigh support. The roomy rear seat comfortably seats three adults. Front and rear access is easy. The gauges are clear and the controls are easy to use. The center rear window is power-operated. Interior storage is generous. A 60/40-split rear bench flips up to create more room. The bed is made of a plastic composite that doesn't corrode. It sits above the wheels so that the wheel wells don't impede on the cargo area. Under the cargo bed is a lockable, weatherproof trunk -- a first for pickups. A small spare tire sits inside the trunk. Access to the bed is helped by a tailgate that can either fold down or swing open like a car door. Payload capacity is 1,530 pounds, and the tow rating is 5,000 pounds. With the tailgate down, the cargo bed is a relatively short 79.5 inches.

SAFETY NOTES

Side-impact air bags, extending from the front seatbacks, and head-protection curtain air bags that extend to protect the heads of front- and rear-outboard passengers, are standard in the Ridgeline. The curtain air bags deploy in both side impacts and rollovers. Height- and position-sensors in the front passenger seat detect if a person is leaning or slouching into the deployment path of the side air bag and will disable that air bag accordingly. All seating positions are equipped with three-point seatbelts. The front versions have adjustable anchors to help get an improved fit, and pretensioners to reduce belt slack in the event of a crash. Sensors in the front seatbelt buckles detect seatbelt usage and will prompt deployment of the front air bags in slightly less severe crashes if a seatbelt is not in use. There are adjustable, locking head restraints in all seats. The outboard versions are tall enough even when lowered to reduce rearward head travel, but the center rear version must be raised to provide adequate whiplash protection. Driving with kids: The rigid buckle stalk on the rear belts of the Ridgeline may make securing some rear-facing infant seat bases difficult. Models with higher belt paths may prove more secure; you also might find a better fir by using the LATCH system. Front-facing seats and rear-facing convertible seats should prove secure. There are tether strap anchors at the base of the seatback in the center and at the outer base of the seat for the outboard positions. Each requires the tether strap to be routed through a guide and then attached to the anchor below, but each required that tether straps from our seats be twisted in order to hook them. Tether straps that are not single straps may also prove difficult to route over the tether guide. There are tether anchors for each of the three rear seats and though placed relatively shallow between the seatback and cushion, they are nestled firmly against the seatback cushion making attaching and detaching the LATCH attachments awkward.

RELIABILITY

We expect reliability to be better than average, according to our latest subscriber survey.
 

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ridge4me2 said:
...The full-time all-wheel drive sends equal torque to the front and rear for added low-speed traction. ...
I would question this part of the review. The RL is front wheel drive except for hard acceleration or when the front starts to slip.

Edited to add: Unless they were referring to having the VTM lock on.
 

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Just received the June issue of Consumer Report yesterday, here is the family reaction:

Beautiful wife: the resale value should go up.
(she has not driven the truck yet and has riden only thrice.)

Dutiful son: Looks great, resale? we are not going to sell this truck!
(Magazine truck is same color as ours and he drives the truck after I get home.)

My reaction: whew ! I told you so.

T-Mac, I believe that your boat has just come in the horizon. This report will do wonders for Ridgeline.
 

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As for the May sales...all I have to say is "talk to me at the end of the year". No one month can predict what will happen throughout a year...the auto industry has ways of always surprising you :D
 

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Are those not May 05 numbers vs May 04 sales...I think Honda is up 0.4% overall vs. last year :confused:
 

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Yes, you're right, Kid. Those are May monthly numbers to LY.

Anyway, I have to totally disagree with CR about the mileage..."expect 15 mpg overall." I had been averaging 18+ overall, mostly stop n go traffic in short commute and city driving. We just got back from (what turned out to be) a 3,000 mile road trip averaging 70 mph (at least), over 10,000 ft mountain passes into 4 western states (from the Grand Canyon to Yosemite) with the A/C running much of the time, and averaged 21 mpg. So I would say expect at least 18 overall if I had to make that statement.

Most others I've seen are reporting roughly the same experience.
 

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Consumers Report July 05

Compact pickups: The NEW Honda Ridgeline MARKS A GIANT LEAP FORWARD IN THE EVOLUTION of THE WORKADAY TRUCK


Honda Ridgeline

Nissan Frontier

Toyota Tacoma

Dodge Dakota

Chevrolet Colorado
The new-for-2006 Ridgeline is Honda’s first pickup truck sold in the United States and our new top-rated pickup.
It features a combined cab and bed, all-wheel drive, a fully independent suspension, and a full-sized trunk. It has a carlike ride, a well-designed interior, and the highest payload capacity in our test group. It scores points in handling, comfort, and versatility, besting all other pickups we’ve tested in these categories.

With its unique unibody design, the Ridgeline takes a big departure from your typical pickup truck, which has largely been defined over the years as a separate cab and bed bolted onto a frame. Its advances also underscore how compact pickups are changing from small, spartan trucks to larger, more powerful and well-appointed vehicles. Most now offer four-door “crew-cab” configurations and four- or all-wheel drive with either a V6 or V8 engine.

We pitted the Ridgeline against redesigned versions of the Nissan Frontier, Toyota Tacoma, and Dodge Dakota, and against the Chevrolet Colorado, which replaced the S-10 in 2003. We bought each with an automatic transmission, crew-cab configuration, and all- or four-wheel drive. As equipped, each was priced around $30,000.

The Frontier shares its platform with other Nissan trucks and SUVs. While the former Frontier was crude, the new one is quick, more nimble, and has a tolerable ride. The rear seat folds for secure cargo carrying. The bed has a protective coating and a cargo tie-down track system.

The Tacoma shares a platform with the 4Runner and Lexus GX470. It has a nice interior, modern powertrain, composite cargo bed, and a contemporary steering system. The TRD version we tested excels at off-roading, but the ride, seat, and driving position are middling and it hauls only a modest load.

The Dakota shares its platform with the Durango. Towing and payload capacity are notable, but the ride is buoyant. Despite having the only V8 in the group, it accelerates more slowly than the V6-powered trucks and gets the worst fuel economy.

The Colorado’s 3.5-liter five-cylinder engine is noisy, has to work hard to deliver, and is not very fuel-efficient. While handling is sound, the ride is stiff. Fit and finish is another shortcoming.
 

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CR Quick Recommendations
Of the six compact pickup trucks we’ve tested recently, we recommend the Honda Ridgeline (1), Toyota Tacoma (6), and Ford Explorer Sport Trac (9). The Chevrolet Colorado (12) scored too low in our tests to recommend. The Nissan Frontier (2) and Dodge Dakota (8) are too new to have a reliability record and cannot yet be recommended. Based on the record of the Honda Pilot, the Ridgeline is expected to be reliable. Previous generations of the Toyota Tacoma had outstanding reliability.
 

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Consumers Report: Comments on Ridgeline

HIGHS | Ride, handling, powertrain refinement, rear seat, access, in-bed trunk, light dual-action tailgate, standard safety equipment and AWD, composite bed.
LOWS | Road noise, turning circle.

The Ridgeline rewrites the book on pickups. It rides like a good sedan and has many innovations, including a tailgate that opens vertically or horizontally and a lockable trunk. Its roomy cab is nicely detailed and easy to access. While not designed for serious off-roading, it scaled our demanding rock hill. Reliability should be above average.


BIG DETAILS: The roomy cab has high-quality materials and lots of storage. The controls are large and easy to operate, even if you’re wearing work gloves. A low step-in and wide doors provide easy access to the cab.


DUAL ACTION: The Ridgeline’s tailgate can also swing sideways like a car door. It provides easier access to the bed and doesn’t require you to bear its weight.


THE DRIVING EXPERIENCE
The Ridgeline has a steady and comfortable ride. Bumps are muted and isolated. The ride is composed on the highway and didn’t degrade when carrying a 500-pound load. It’s quiet overall, with road noise being the most pronounced.

Handling is agile, with well-restrained body lean. The steering is precise and well-weighted, and the truck is composed, even on washboard surfaces. The turning circle, however, is a wide 45 feet.

At the track, the Ridgeline felt balanced. The standard ESC helped the truck in our avoidance maneuver.

The Ridgeline’s smooth, responsive, and quiet 255-hp, 3.5-liter V6 engine is mated to a five-speed automatic transmission. It took 20.5 seconds to pull a 5,000-pound trailer to 60 mph, about average for this group. Expect 15 mpg overall.

The full-time all-wheel drive sends equal torque to the front and rear for added low-speed traction. It doesn’t have the low-range gearing of traditional pickups, but was capable off-road. Overall braking was good, but stops were long. Headlight performance was very good.


INSIDE THE CABIN

Fit and finish is impeccable, with high-quality materials. The cab is roomy and drivers sit up high, with a good view forward. However, most complained that the tilt steering wheel was too far away.

The supportive and very comfortable power front seats feature adjustable lumbar and good thigh support. The roomy rear seat comfortably seats three adults. Front and rear access is easy.

The gauges are clear and the controls are easy to use. The center rear window is power-operated.

Interior storage is generous. A 60/40-split rear bench flips up to create more room.

The bed is made of a plastic composite that doesn’t corrode. It sits above the wheels so that the wheel wells don’t impede on the cargo area. Under the cargo bed is a lockable, weatherproof trunk--a first for pickups. A small spare tire sits inside the trunk. Access to the bed is helped by a tailgate that can either fold down or swing open like a car door. Payload capacity is a group best at 1,530 pounds, and the tow rating is 5,000 pounds. With the tailgate down, the cargo bed is a relatively short 79.5 inches.


SAFETY NOTES

The center rear head restraint provides whiplash protection only when raised.

Driving with kids. Some rear-facing infant seat bases may be more secure using the LATCH system. Some tether straps and LATCH anchors may be difficult to use.
 

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Since CR came out 2 weeks ago, I have seen a lot more sighting of ridgeline in the bay area. For the past 3 days, I have seen brand new ridgeline every day.

From March to June 1, I did not see a single one. I must admit the Ridgelines looked good driving by. I wonder if other places are still getting invoice prices?
 
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