Other then the expense, is there a problem using Mobil 1 synthetic 5W20 motor oil and the Mobile 1 oil filter? Will probably need my first oil change later this week and wonder what others feel about this...Thanks!
A problem? No! That's probably the very best combo you can possibly use! Glad you realize that the quality of the filter is just as important as the oil. Both of your choices are the very best.Nicholas said:Other then the expense, is there a problem using Mobil 1 synthetic 5W20 motor oil and the Mobile 1 oil filter? Will probably need my first oil change later this week and wonder what others feel about this...Thanks!
Don't know who makes Honda oil... probably the lowest bidder, but even if it is Mobil it is NOT Mobil1. I know for certain that Mobil does not OEM out the Mobil1 forumula to anyone.doubledutyemt said:Is everyone aware that Mobil IS the manufacturer of Honda's oils?
There's a HUGE difference between a Mobil1 and Honda oil filter. Like night and day. The Honda filter is junk.BamaRidge said:Just out of curiosity, why is a Mobil1 filter better then a Honda filter.
Technically it's Exxon/Mobil since Exxon bought Mobil and it's Exxon's SuperFlow formula which is not synthetic. As CSIMO said Mobil1 is a top choice if not the best for both oil and filter. I'll be using both myself.doubledutyemt said:Is everyone aware that Mobil IS the manufacturer of Honda's oils?
What csimo said and more. There's more to filters than one might think. It's all about their ability to filter, efficiency and construction to last the duration. Crappy filters (Fram...) can have pleats that tear off the end caps, bypass systems that don't work, get stuck. You need a good and properly set bypass mechanism in the filter so it doesn't rip a hole in the filter media among other things. When you have a spike in oil pressure, like during initial startup, the filter will pass the oil directly thru without going thru the media momentarily. There's anti-drain back valves, not really a concern for the Ridge since the filter is mounted upside down. What type and how much of the filter media used is also of concern and more.BamaRidge said:Just out of curiosity, why is a Mobil1 filter better then a Honda filter.
Shhhhh! We're supposed to keep that quiet.shovelhd said:The Wal-Mart SuperTech filter is made by Champion, and at $2.07, is the best high quality filter available for the money. The number is ST7317. Be prepared to hit all of the Wal-Marts in your area, though, as this is no secret to Honda afficianados. It's not unusual to go to the SuperTech shelf and find the 7317 space empty.
Stick with what the Oil Life indicator says while under warranty. After that, if you're using the EP formula of Mobil1 you could probably push it further to 10,000 or 15,000 miles depending on your driving habits/conditions. If you're really into it and want to know you can send in oil samples to a lab like BlackStone and see how far you can push it.Ultra-HOG said:I do have a few questions. When I do my first oil change to Mobil1 with the Mobil1 filter (at ???? miles, opinions vary considerably), when should the next oil and filter change occur? Will the Honda Oil Life "computer" be accurate? Are there any warranty issues or precautions other than keeping records and receipts?
The guys "in the know" insist that we run the "break-in" oil until the computer tells us to change. My personal policy is that if the computer tells me to change it before 5000 miles I will do it, but at 5000 miles it's coming out either way. I know I'll take some heat over that, but it's just not in me to run that oil, as special as it may be, in a new engine for over 5000 miles. Sorry.Ultra-HOG said:I do have a few questions. When I do my first oil change to Mobil1 with the Mobil1 filter (at ???? miles, opinions vary considerably), when should the next oil and filter change occur? Will the Honda Oil Life "computer" be accurate? Are there any warranty issues or precautions other than keeping records and receipts?
For me there is. While the verdict is still out on the new EP formula it does have more anti-wear additives and cleaning agents than the standard formula of Mobil1. This makes a difference for me as most of my driving is very short trips. I rarely get out on the freeway so I never get my oil up to temp to burn off any built up condensation. I'll take all the help I can get as my oil gets old quick. BTW I'm at 2500 miles now and my Oil indicator just flipped to 50% so looks like my schedule will be every 5000 miles.csimo said:Once you have Mobil1 (no reason to pay extra for the new extended drain version)...
yes, please post the results, and most importantly the interpretations of the results. Looking forward to it.Nicholas said:My indicator showes 10% oil life left this morning with 6,230 miles on the odometer...leaving this weekend on a 500 mile trip one way...going to change oil probably while on the road at a Honda dealership with my oil (Mobil 1 synthetic with a Mobil 1 oil filter) and also while in the process, pull a sample from the "break-in" oil and send it into Blackstone Lab for a TBN readout and analyis (have used their services before and was impressed). If interested...will post results? Most of my driving is usually at highway speeds (55 miles per hour or above). Will be interesting, I'm sure.
Jealous, just goes to show how bad short little trips are on the engine. I'm also looking forward to the oil analysis, curious how much more moly and other stuff they put in the beakin oil.Ridge said:by the way vertrkr, I'm at 3,300 miles and the monior says 60% left.