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I checked the oil level yesterday with 4500 miles and I was 1/2 quart low on oil. The Honda dealer confirmed it was low and added oil. Additionally, they advised me to wait until it was down to 15% before change oil.

Has anyone else had this issue with their 2017 Ridgeline?
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What kind of oil did they top it off with out of curiosity? Just synthetic 0-20?
If I was a half quart low on that many miles running oil with the viscosity of water I'd be not concerned at all. Maybe that's old school logic.

If you can make it 5k miles without being a full quart low I say good to go.
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Our 2007 Cadillac CTS with the 2.8 engine would use a quart of Mobil 1 Syn 5w-30 every 3,000mi. I asked the dealer about it and they said during the warranty period "normal usage for mileage and driving type". So, I looked around and found others that had the same thing going on with theirs as well. A few people mentioned that they had switched to 10w-30 and so I tried it too. After that it didn't use it between oil changes again. The engine was fine the whole time and I used Walmart brand Full Synthetic instead of anything pricier. I checked my RL recently and it looks about 1/3 of a quart down now with about 3,000 mi on it. I figure once it gets some miles on it and if it continues to do this I'll probably use different weight oil in it too. But for now I'm sticking with it till it asks for a oil change and then I'll have a discussion about oil use at the dealer. Maybe more than one dealer if I get some story I don't want to hear lol.

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If I was a half quart low on that many miles running oil with the viscosity of water I'd be not concerned at all. Maybe that's old school logic.

If you can make it 5k miles without being a full quart low I say good to go.
We have a Subaru which makes engines renowned for burning oil. That said, we have a 2016 model forester... at 6k oil change intervals of 0-20 synthetic, it does not burn any noticeable oil for it's first or second oil changes (which we do ourselves). Meanwhile, my 24 year old inline 6, with 200k miles, which has had a headgasget job due to an overheat, which has subsquently failed... burns nearly a quart per 3k, and leaks about a gallon of coolant in the same time span. lol

Now I know to keep an eye on the engine oil level on the RL....
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I have a 2010 RTL. Run OEM filter and 5/20 semi-synthetic blend. Change oil and filter at 50% then 15%. Averages out to about 8k between changes. So far have not experienced any burning of oil. Have also checked sparkplug tightness. 74k on truck now. You need to do this so it doesn't blow a plug out because it's lose. So far so good.
Wife's car 2015 Accord EXL. Have switched oil from 0/20 to 5/20 and going to change oil and filter same as RL.
Manufacturers Don't like to admit thier engines burn oil. BUT THEY DO!! it's up to the owner to check their oil on a regular interval. But most of the driving public don't even know the hood opens!!. To their loss. Because most newer cars will run with one qt oil in them and not turn any warning lights on.


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The norm for BMW opposed twin (boxer) motorcycles has been for the first few thousand miles they literally drink oil, but once everything settles in they hardly use a drop between regular oil changes. A example being my '04 1150 GS used >1 quart of 15/50 synthetic oil every 3,000 miles. After I clocked 10,000 miles on odometer routine oil changes at 6,000 miles were never associated with the need of added oil. On a 9,000 mile ride from East TN to Seattle and back I had to add 1/2 quart to keep oil topped up. Based on BMW's recommended safe oil level I wasted my money. Based on my BMW experience I won't get too alarmed by oil consumption in my Ridgeline until after 10,000 miles.
Define 1/2qt low:

-1/2 qt below full (this means oil level in middle, no oil needed)

-1/2 qt below min (this means .5 qt to reach min, or 1.5 qt to reach full, or 1 qt to reach middle)
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Remember, it is better to be a quart low than a quart high!
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VCM=Burn oil from everything I have seen/read. Sounds normal...for Honda VCM that is.
Yes, it's the VCM causing the engine to burn a bit of oil. I guess you can all it normal operations but I don't like my vehicles burning any oil. At 7000 miles the oil level on my BE was 3/4 below the full mark. Currently I'm at 10k mile mark with no signs of oil burning after disabling the VCM with the VCMuzzler
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I'm exactly in the middle of the hash marks at 3500 miles.

Even though I checked it when we picked it up, it's been so long ago now I don't remember the exact starting point.
I burned a half a quart in the first 5k. Not a single drop in the second 5k. Any oil burn should taper off.
About half quart for 3000 miles for me. At 6 k now added the other half
I checked the oil level yesterday with 4500 miles and I was 1/2 quart low on oil. The Honda dealer confirmed it was low and added oil. Additionally, they advised me to wait until it was down to 15% before change oil.

Has anyone else had this issue with their 2017 Ridgeline?
I have a 2017 Ridgeline that I got in Sept 2016. It now has 28,000 miles on it, mostly highway. Only used it for moving heavy loads a couple times and when doing so, have driven it gently. Since it hit about 18,000 miles last summer, it has been going through a quart of oil every 4000 miles. Getting a quart of oil into it is a pain in the tits: there is nowhere enough room to maneuver a plastic bottle around without spilling it all over the front of the engine. Today, I removed the plastic fashion-accessory cover - the one that says "Honda Earth Dreams I-VTEC" on it - from the top of the engine, thinking I'd have more room to get the oil into the fill neck. It had been secured with 4 rubber grommets on 4 plastic posts. Unless you line the cover up perfectly when you are re-installing it, the grommets push through the plastic assemblies that hold them and find a way to disappear into the recesses of the engine compartment.
Anyone else going through oil at that rate?
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My oil level started at the upper mark. 9K miles later when the first oil change came due, it was at the lower mark (I don't know if the lower mark means 1/2 quart low, 1 quart low, or some other quantity). My oil life is currently at 40% and the level is in the middle EDIT: still at the upper mark. I don't add oil and the vehicle is completely stock (no VCM defeat devices).

Oil is cheap - even if it burned a quart every 1,000 miles (which BMW considers normal) that's only 0.6 cents per mile. GM says a quart every 2,000 miles is normal. That's 0.3 cents per mile. Honda doesn't seem concerned unless the engine burns more than a quart in 3,000 miles, which is 0.2 cents per mile. Gasoline costs me 10 cents per mile.

https://www.cars.com/articles/how-much-oil-consumption-is-normal-1420682864535/

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I don't care what anyone claims. Oil usage is not normal. If it were normal then why don't all similar vehicles use oil? As other's have posted, it's most likely caused by the VCM (that Honda claims they updated to eliminate oil consumption). As I have written previously, I visit a local Honda dealer regularly and Honda is still having issues with VCM. I disabled mine. Zero oil consumption in 15k miles.
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I don't care what anyone claims. Oil usage is not normal. If it were normal then why don't all similar vehicles use oil? As other's have posted, it's most likely caused by the VCM (that Honda claims they updated to eliminate oil consumption). As I have written previously, I visit a local Honda dealer regularly and Honda is still having issues with VCM. I disabled mine. Zero oil consumption in 15k miles.
Disabled mine too, no oil consumption since it has been in place. About a 1000 miles on it now since the 1st oil change. Did put 0w20 Full Syn in there. Mighty thin at that viscosity.

I will keep watching it and post back.
I have a 2017 Ridgeline that I got in Sept 2016. It now has 28,000 miles on it, mostly highway. Only used it for moving heavy loads a couple times and when doing so, have driven it gently. Since it hit about 18,000 miles last summer, it has been going through a quart of oil every 4000 miles. Getting a quart of oil into it is a pain in the tits: there is nowhere enough room to maneuver a plastic bottle around without spilling it all over the front of the engine. Today, I removed the plastic fashion-accessory cover - the one that says "Honda Earth Dreams I-VTEC" on it - from the top of the engine, thinking I'd have more room to get the oil into the fill neck. It had been secured with 4 rubber grommets on 4 plastic posts. Unless you line the cover up perfectly when you are re-installing it, the grommets push through the plastic assemblies that hold them and find a way to disappear into the recesses of the engine compartment.
Anyone else going through oil at that rate?
I have to give the level a check from when I changed it a month ago, but that cover is in the basement now. Not worth the hassle. I don't think it does a thing about engine noise and was just a way to beautify the engine compartment.
Have a 2013 Pilot and 2017 RL with 13k. New oil usage yet for either.
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