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The Tacoma vs. the Ridgeline

Rugged, off road ready trucks vs. the new wave of lifestyle trucks could be viewed as the neanderthal pick up vs. the next generation. The newest Taco got a raw score of 48, even lower than the Titan XD, from Consumer Reports who called it “the perfect truck for landscapers and contractors.”

CR also stated that Toyota appears to have “slept through the past decade's advances in truck technology and interior design.” Ponderous steering, slow and numb steering, were other notations.
My favorite: ”The chassis delivers a Metallica snare-drum beat to your spine.”
IMO, the biggest negative for the Tacoma is the lack of advanced safety features.
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The RL is very up to date with todays new hi-tech stuff. The taco is not, a colorado/canyon is better equipped then that thing. Better looking too.
One other thing I would add to the evaluation, the seating position on the Tacoma is very uncomfortable compared to either a Gen 1 or Gen 2 Ridgeline.
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geeze, lifestyle pickups? That term alone makes me NOT want to buy one.
So it's the perfect truck for people who use trucks as trucks and that makes it a terrible truck?

This is why I don't read CR. They are quick to point out what they feel are flaws but rarely admit those flaws may be advantages for the vehicle's intended purpose.

I have never liked the Tacoma, but I will admit it is pretty good at what it is designed to do.
The new Tacoma is the best looking midsize truck on the market. But that is all it has going for it other than living off old reputation, which is now being tarnished because of poor quality in the new models. If you only care about looks, buy a Tacoma. If anything else matters to you even a little bit, there are better options.
Spiraling down the rabbit hole again defending Consumer Reports to the odd few who have negative opinions about the publication.
CR does make mistakes with some of their recommendations, but you can mostly trust their road test/reviews.

Remember that CR purchases ALL their test vehicles and accepts NO advertising unlike other publications.
Just no good argument that the Consumers Union is somehow biased. That's just bunk!

Consumer Reports was instrumental in getting ABS systems on all vehicles.
They also advocated for electronic stability control although its not on every new car-truck-SUV yet; it becomes mandatory next year.
CR was also totally responsible for the introduction of rollover testing.
Currently they are advocating for forward collision and auto braking systems for every new car.
It's working as Toyota reportedly will offer a this on ALL new cars next year.

If you haven't discovered Consumer Reports, do not be deterred by some who wave off this excellent source of information, try to claim it's somehow biased, and then proudly proclaim they ditched their subscriptions or do not consult CR before a new (or used) vehicle purchase (or a washing machine, baby stroller, chainsaw, paint, etc.).
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The new Tacoma is the best looking midsize truck on the market. But that is all it has going for it other than living off old reputation, which is now being tarnished because of poor quality in the new models. If you only care about looks, buy a Tacoma. If anything else matters to you even a little bit, there are better options.
Looks are highly subjective. There are a large portion of Tacoma fans who aren't digging third gen design.
Personally I like the looks of the Colorado, but it has a few big problems I don't like.
Bloomberg Article

Bill Visnic, editorial director of the Society of Automotive Engineers, said this is one of the few pickups he would feel comfortable driving up to the front of a fancy restaurant. “The Ridgeline does everything a casual driver needs and appears to be a little more mature approach to selling someone a truck,” he said.
“Full-sized pickups these days are almost laughably over-engineered,” Visnic stated.

Consequently, driving a contemporary pickup is not unlike talking to a weightlifter at your gym; both constantly remind you how much they like working out.
The Ridgeline doesn’t do this. It drives like a car—like a swollen Accord, to be precise.
This, more than anything else, sets it apart.

And there are plenty of buyers.
Since hitting the market in June, they are selling as soon as they hit dealerships, according to Pawl.

Honda?s Hot, New Ridgeline Is a Pickup Truck for Grownups - Bloomberg
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I guess Tacoma sucks so bad that thousands upon thousands are being sold more than the other midsize trucks.

Toyota understands their market with the Tacoma & they are building a truck the consumers want to buy.
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Bill Visnic, editorial director of the Society of Automotive Engineers, said this is one of the few pickups he would feel comfortable driving up to the front of a fancy restaurant....

Consequently, driving a contemporary pickup is not unlike talking to a weightlifter at your gym; both constantly remind you how much they like working out.
Good Lord, no hypocrisy there.... :surprise:

Another self-anointed expert trying to tell everyone what they should buy.

Funny how the market tends to set itself, in spite of these morons!
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