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My VCMuzzler is on the way, i will post update in this thread after i install it.

So far I have over 400 miles on my G2 and I don't notice much hesitation or issues with the VCM but i want to eliminate it from the equation so I don't even have to worry about it.

Do you plan to get a VCMuzzler II?
 
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I'm not in the market for a G2 for at least a couple years. By then, we'll have a long term record from your experience! Do you plan to do any comparisons to see how much lower your fuel mileage is with the VCM muzzled?
 

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I'm not in the market for a G2 for at least a couple years. By then, we'll have a long term record from your experience! Do you plan to do any comparisons to see how much lower your fuel mileage is with the VCM muzzled?
other than looking at what the avg MPG says, not really.

Currently I'm averaging 22mpg and have not turned on ECO mode at all.

EDIT: Not to mention this includes about 5-6 trips of 15 miles each time with the bed and back seats totally full of stuff since i've been moving to a new home.
 

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A lot of Pilot VCMuzzler buyers are curious about this and have done some comparisons because it is so easy to detach the Muzzler. The general consensus is that most drivers see no more than a 1 mpg drop with VCM disabled. Some even claim better mileage with the Muzzler, but that seems a little dubious to me.
 

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My VCMuzzler is on the way, i will post update in this thread after i install it.

So far I have over 400 miles on my G2 and I don't notice much hesitation or issues with the VCM but i want to eliminate it from the equation so I don't even have to worry about it.

Do you plan to get a VCMuzzler II?
Hey Plex, could you post a link on where I can buy one of these devises?
 

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I will be extremely interested in the results as well. I don't care about the mpg difference, just the driving impressions with VCM off, particularly engine responsiveness and performance on hills. Thanks for taking the bullet for the forum and being the first tester!!
 

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I am only semi-interested in the results. My problem is that the tech is still installed on the engine. Hope a rat doesn't chew any wiring causing the system to quit supplying oil to the rocker arms. (hopefully it's all sealed from external access).

All this for maybe 1 mpg?

 
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Nice job Plex.

Have you or can you check the indash "MPG" vs hand calculated "MPG"

There are "apps" in the Apple App Store and I'm guessing in the Google Market Place which are quick and easy to type in Gallons & Miles, and calculate, many are free, or just do the calculator thing.

Just curious, and good luck, please keep us updated
 
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I am only semi-interested in the results. My problem is that the tech is still installed on the engine. Hope a rat doesn't chew any wiring causing the system to quit supplying oil to the rocker arms. (hopefully it's all sealed from external access).

All this for maybe 1 mpg?
I totally agree with you Speed. I'm a confirmed doubter. What I'm hoping is that the tech will improve over time, and become common, well accepted, and ultimately reliable long term....not unlike fuel injection and turbocharging have done over the past 25-50 years. But I don't want to be a guinea pig. Honda has been showing their A$$ in so many ways lately that this could be the next exploding airbag if you get my drift. They seem to be adding it to everything they make. VCM has a number of engineering concerns that I have not seen any data or long term results to override. To be fair, other manuf. are using similar tech, but that doesn't make it right.
 

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Very interested in this. VCM is stupid. It seems like the Pilot guys over in that thread love the Muzzler. Increased MPG and responsiveNess
 

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I would have to assume this would void the warranty if Honda found out about it. I suppose that you could remove it before servicing but I wonder if the fact that it was there might not show up on the dealer's diagnostics? If that is even a possibility, I would not want to put one on while in warranty.
 

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According to pilot owners who use them, they always take them off before they take it into the dealership and have never had an issue.

Also, i have heard of a dealership that actually recommends people use the VCMuzzler to disable VCM.

Heres a video of someone installing one, its easy.

 
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Well, OK, but the idea of installing something sold on Ebay that modifies the function of my brand new vehicle just sounds a little risky. If a dealer recommended it I would want it signed in writing (bet they would not do that).

I would add that we have an almost 3 year old Odyssey with VCM and have seen no problems of any kind (well, except for an obviously unrelated replacement NAV screen)
 

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Well, OK, but the idea of installing something sold on Ebay that modifies the function of my brand new vehicle just sounds a little risky. If a dealer recommended it I would want it signed in writing (bet they would not do that).

I would add that we have an almost 3 year old Odyssey with VCM and have seen no problems of any kind (well, except for an obviously unrelated replacement NAV screen)
3 years isnt long.

The VCMuzzler prevents the computer from telling the engine to disable cylinders, so it always runs on all 6. its not modifying the vehicles normal operations while running on 6 cylinders at all. Everything runs as it would have without the VCMuzzler at 6 cylinders.
 

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Take a look at the mounts that hold the engine, they look like they are built to handle a jackhammer... no thanks i will disable VCM and enjoy the benefits of full time v6.
 

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Take a look at the mounts that hold the engine, they look like they are built to handle a jackhammer... no thanks i will disable VCM and enjoy the benefits of full time v6.
Who here would be interested in temporarily removing the hood from their new RL, and mounting a dash cam pointed at the engine bay so we can see how bad the vibrations are when running in 3 cylinder mode versus 6 cylinder mode at 65 mph? >:)
 

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I'm interested and paying attention. I despise VCM technology. But I'm also concerned about unknown dependencies on the VCM, especially those that might have crept into the design over the last few years. The person who is doing the code work has a 2012 Honda Pilot. The reality is that we're all his or her beta testers.
 
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