I have done some reading about people putting the pilot bigger brakes on the ridgeline the problem I'm having is what years work? I have a 2008 so do I need 2008 pilot? Any difinitive answer would be great.
I, too, would like to knew if the rears could and should be done? I'm at about 52k on my RL, so now is the time to start pondering these things.Did you go for it Turbo? Front or back? MDX or Pilot?
I read the other threads but they seemed to fizzle out when specifics were requested about compatibility.
I think I'm going to try this, but I do wonder why Honda used the smaller brakes on the Ridge? Think it's because the Pilot is a family car and they wanted bigger (safer) brakes on it? While us cowboys in our Ridgelines can risk our necks??
Looking Forward to your findings! Please don't forget to keep us posted!Since I'm in need of both front & rear brakes at the current time I'm researching this currently & should have some results or findings in the next week or so.
What I know so far.
Vehicles which use the 5*120mm pattern are: 2006-14 Ridgeline, 2008-13 Acura MDX, 2009-14 Pilot, 2005-12 Odysesy & possibly current (13,14,15) more research required. So to answer the question "I have an '08 Ridgeline do I need an '08 MDX, NO, any of the years listed will work, this is an interchangeable part over these years. A 2006 Ridgeline & a 2014 are the same, as is a 2008 MDX and a 2013 as is a 2009-14 Pilot, and actually if you own a 2008-13 MDX the Pilot Rotors & Pads are the same part number (only validated on one site)
Of all the options the Ridgeline rears are the largest production rear disc brakes that Honda installed (currently validated on just one site). The fronts are largest on the MDX & Pilot, although by the numbers I've found I'm unsure if the costs are really worth it, especially since I haven't found the part numbers to answer my final questions.
So if someone owns one of the other vehicles MDX or Pilot, or has done this upgrade, is the bracket which holds the caliper the same? Can I use my Ridgeline bracket to bolt the Pilot/MDX caliper or is the bracket bolt pattern the same and that where the transition occurs?
Meaning buy the bracket, & calipers for either from anywhere, new, used(junk yard) or reman from a typical parts store. Then purchase rotors & pads, your choice from, stock replacements, to EBay or parts store brand, or EBC, Hawk, or Akebono, to name a few, and your off to the races.
Once I've validated the rotor sizes on a second site I'll post everything, I'm hoping to have info together later this week.
My only other thoughts are, I know others have put BMW wheels on their Ridgeline so there may be a possibility there, but, just guessing very cost prohibitive, and probably only available for the fronts, although that may make a brand like Brembo or other brands may be available.
I trusted the source, assuming that the Part numbers provided came from Centric..I've got a spreadsheet with a bunch more info. But depending on the source, I'm getting different numbers. Did you just trust the source on Piloteers or check centric.
Plus I hadn't considered checking caliper bore size.
Tomorrow I'll be pulling apart my 2006, brakes and checking actual brakes, pads & rotors
Thanks, even more research...
I'm actually planning to use ALL OEM Calipers and pads...still debating on using Centric Rotors. Assuming Centrics are just refurbished OEMs, I'm using their data since its the only source of publicized info. I will indeed measure them when I get them.Since your planning on ordering Centric parts, once in hand will you also verify the size stated, I'll be in my garage most of today, but will get actual numbers of 2006 stock parts to verify what the OEM are. I'm also going to try to go to Autozone & check there parts vs what they state online.
One question, just to verify, does the parts replacement begin with the caliper/rotor/pads or is the bracket required to be replaced
If you mean "are Centric rotors refurbished OEM?" The answer is no. Rotors aren't a typcial refurb item; replacment rotors will pretty much always be new.I'm actually planning to use ALL OEM Calipers and pads...still debating on using Centric Rotors. Assuming Centrics are just refurbished OEMs, I'm using their data since its the only source of publicized info. I will indeed measure them when I get them.
Sorry I was not clear, as I was indeed referring to the calipers being re-manned.If you mean "are Centric rotors refurbished OEM?" The answer is no. Rotors aren't a typcial refurb item; replacment rotors will pretty much always be new.
Over the years, my 06 Ridge has had issues with "warped" rotors. I do lots of city stop and go driving. The Raysbestos brand rotors (they probably all come from 2-3 suppliers in China anyways) that are currently on the truck have lasted the longest. OEM's were acting up at 30k miles.
As to calipers . . .Refurbished calipers are rebuilt OEM ones. That is why there is a core charge. I personally think that you would be wasting your money on new OEM (How much do they want?) You can get refurbed OEM for <$70 per side with core or about $120 with core. I have been contemplating whether they would notice if I sent them my stock Ridgeline caliper back as a core. If you get the "semi loaded" calipers they come with the mounting bracket (which I am pretty sure<but not certain>is needed for swapping the Pilot brakes onto the Ridge). For new OEM the caliper and mounting bracket has got to cost a small fortune.
So i measured the OD diameter of the fresh out of the box OEM rotors with a mic, and I'm getting 46.3mm. So, like your findings, they are not lining up w/ Centric's data.Ok, I know Centric Parts states dual 45 mm bore, but...
Without disassembly I cannot check the bore, but the contact area is dual 40mm front & single 40mm rear. I cannot measure the rotors here at home but will be heading out to the weld shop to take measurements this week and try to verify some of the numbers.
I'm thinking for now I'll continue researching but until I have issues with existing calipers, I'll be starting with SS Brake lines & a full bleed, & new OE front pads.
I'm hoping your 46.3mm is the Caliper, unsure if that's the front and from which possible vehicle, MDX, Pilot, ZDX or?So i measured the OD diameter of the fresh out of the box OEM rotors with a mic, and I'm getting 46.3mm. So, like your findings, they are not lining up w/ Centric's data.
However, the portion of the piston inside the caliper could be larger than the actual portion that makes contact with the pad. I've never removed a brake piston so I can't confirm, however an quick google search shows that some some piston designs are have smaller diameter heads and larger diameter bodies...
However, based on your measurements, that's still 6.3mm larger than your measurements...
This measurement is the outer diameter of the pistons from the MDX front calipers I purchased. Again..which based off the image below, doesn't mean anything. The portion of the piston inside the caliper can be larger than the portion that makes direct contact w/ the pad.I'm hoping your 46.3mm is the Caliper, unsure if that's the front and from which possible vehicle, MDX, Pilot, ZDX or?