I had my left rear fender liner out today. The factory application of seam sealer is very sloppy. I wondered about that forward seam that you have outlined. Can that forward seam be sealed from the cab side?
I had my left rear fender liner out today. The factory application of seam sealer is very sloppy. I wondered about that forward seam that you have outlined. Can that forward seam be sealed from the cab side?Currently have my rear seat removed and the carpet folded back to expose the bare floor across that entire seat frame riser. Then water tested only the unsealed forward seam with the hose pointed only at the seam. Bingo, it leaks. Then repeated the hose in the bed and let gravity work to drain out the forward drains. Holy cow what a flood inside. This time on both sides of the cab, entering the cab entirely from the drain slots along the bottom of the seat frame riser, and it was all I could do to catch the water with a bath towel at the rate it was infiltrating. I'm also gaining a sense that Honda knows all about this leakage because they placed a foam blocker seal about 3" inside the ends of that seat riser. That blocker diverts any water into the carpet foam and keeps it from flowing out the ends of the riser toward the door sills.
I'm going to let my truck dry out while trying to figure out how to gain access to that seam without dropping the fuel tank. Thinking maybe working through the fuel pump access panel, but that's working blind and not much room to work.
After getting this deep into the problem, I'm convinced there are 2 types of Ridgelines... The ones that are known to leak, and the ones where it hasn't been noticed yet. This is a shame.
I also believe you are on the right track, because I noticed that the water all ended up there when I did the same test and looked it. What is really frustrating is that the flat area just above that seam is sloped to channel all of the water right at that seam.Not the unsealed seam that's leaking on mine. My fender liner is already out, it's much further forward. The dealer is taking about the seam at the top of the photo. Look way in the back of the photo inside the yellow box. That's forward of the fuel tank.
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Good chance Fluid Film could be enough to stop or at least minimize infiltration based on what I see.Also, on my 17" that doesn't show a leaking problem, could it possibly have helped that I used that sticky based fluid film, which could have flowed into those exposed seams, allowing it to block this water leakage as mentioned ?
From inside the cab is what I'm hoping for. Remove the rear seat and pull back the carpet. Underneath is an access panel to the top of the fuel pump (that's the aluminum oval to the right in those photos). That's how the dealer gained access if your truck was recalled to install a plastic cover over the top of the fuel pump. However, the hole is only about 6" X 8" so only big enough to reach an arm inside so limited to working by blind by feel.I had my left rear fender liner out today. The factory application of seam sealer is very sloppy. I wondered about that forward seam that you have outlined. Can that forward seam be sealed from the cab side?
Those were some great pics, but I can't find them, either. It's possible they are gone for good... see posts #295 - #303 here:I'm trying to find the pics when billmanmotion pulled his bed to get to the harness. It would give some perspective to these pics. One thing though is I don't see any rust in those compartments along the seams which is encouraging but the fix is like painting with a blindfold on. Hopefully this sudden rash of dealers seeing leaks will get a response from Honda. Hope Honda doesn't say it's "normal."
Go to billmanmotion’s profile and click on media. All the pictures are there.Those were some great pics, but I can't find them, either. It's possible they are gone for good... see posts #295 - #303 here:
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Jan 7th Recall: Rear Harness Update/Teardown/Pictures
Re: Safety Recall: Rear Wire Harness/Rear Subframe Harness If anyone can access recalls, there is an update as of today. 1-7-2017. A repair part# has been issued, but not available as of yet. I got a phone call from my dealer. They say updated parts are available. Will be going in next...www.ridgelineownersclub.com
The forum's thread merge at the time may have destroyed them.
I was wondering about just running some hot wax through a tube and letting it drip into the seam, filling all of the voids as it cools. However, if there is continual shifting stress on the seams, the wax may not make a tight seal.Also found today that I can likely reach across overtop the fuel tank from the passenger's side to put sealers into the seam pockets. Lifting the truck a few more inches for better clearance or chasing down a set of ramps would likely help. I can also now reach the spot on the driver's side easier with the truck slightly elevated. Some of this will still be by feel but think it's possible without dropping the fuel tank, just letting it dry out first. Crazy thought is duct tape might be the fix.
It seems one could theoretically place a vertical strip anywhere between 1 and 2 and re-direct the water.Rogers has been talking about putting a plastic strip on the top seam that directly takes the drain water from the bed. Without it the water builds up at point 1, then slides down the cab bottom to slot 2. With the strip (black box) the water should fall off that edge harmlessly below...
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Had Honda been even messier with the seam sealant and let it flow over the edge they might have solved this for usIt seems one could theoretically place a vertical strip anywhere between 1 and 2 and re-direct the water.
Everyone..... This is very important.I'd caution against these self-repairs for in-warranty vehicles or as a preventive measure. It may be possible to make things worse if you seal up something that's not supposed to be sealed. If the repair isn't successful and the dealer or Honda sees a bunch of sealer smeared everywhere, they might deny the claim.