Poll on the Water Intrusion/Rear Harness Recall

Gonna bump so it stays near the top. Pretty interesting, actually. It appears most have failed at under 3000 miles (6 out of 8 at this writing) and most of that group at under 1000 (4 out of the 6). Of course we could be looking at two groups, the good ones that can go more miles and the bad ones that cannot. OTOH, older ones that have lots of miles also should have the bad parts. Perhaps too small a sample or other factors like climate are more important (but climate should be random). Overall about a 13.5 % failure rate.

A poll that may be more revealing is one featuring failure and VIN #.
PS-currently 2,000 miles and trouble free; VIN #16,XXX.

as of this post..

5 groups of answers (OK/DIED)

looking at the fail numbers at EACH died reports ....

It sequenced as 4,3,0,1,2 -->> 0,1,2,3,4 fails :nerd:

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I think the date of manufacture would be relevant to this poll.

For instance, my RTL-AWD (this problem only affects AWD, right) was made in 09/16. According to the VIN check on the Honda website, it is not affected by the recall.

While I agree that both VIN and date of manufacture as well as weather, owner behavior, and probably some other things are all relevant, it would be impossible to do a poll that took account of all the variables. That is why I chose mileage.

Just for background, mine is part of the recall but was checked and found to be clean and dry. It was packed with dielectric grease by the mechanic as a stopgap until the real fix is available.

Can you please define "Rear Harness Failure"? What system are we talking about and what are the indications?

I'm now an OK in the 3000-5000 miles range.

9500 miles and no problems to report. Drove in good amount of snow and slush last week.

I've got just over 14 000 KM's on my Canadian Black Edition (Vin #1296) and no issues so far, although as others have mentioned, it might have something to do with the undercoating spray that was applied to it at the time of purchase keeping water out

It's a water intrusion problem.

Pretty sure that 100k miles of desert driving would be fine. Mileage is not something you can really use as a predictor here.

What you need to know is who goes splashing through puddles and slush. or otherwise driving in wet climates.

Pete

5000 miles of driving in the PNW, lots of rain and some snow. Subject to recall. Dealer checked last week and no issues. Dealer claims it WILL be replaced when the "Final" fix is ready. Also stated the even if repaired, the fix is temporary while permenant solution is engineered, then even repaired vehicles will be called back for that fix. Factory allows over 8 hours for the temporary replacement.

Gary
Oregon

My BE (VIN ~4,000) had both harnesses replaced after failure at around 3,000 miles. The only significant water it had prior to failing was I had recently washed the truck. It was initially scheduled for the main harness to be replaced and while they were doing that the dealer called and said they would need a couple more days because Honda had instructed them to replace the second rear harness.
It has been fine since. I hope the harness that was installed was a redesigned one and I won't need to be concerned with a second issue.

I should also say the Honda dealer ( I didn't even buy it there) and Honda NA were very responsive and quick to address it. No trial and error about cleaning and putting sealant in a poorly designed connection.

Psychlist1972 said:

It's a water intrusion problem.

Pretty sure that 100k miles of desert driving would be fine. Mileage is not something you can really use as a predictor here.

What you need to know is who goes splashing through puddles and slush. or otherwise driving in wet climates.

Pete

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All true but impossible to track with a poll. I am looking for overall incidence.

My RTL-T is in the recall and with over 8,000 New England miles through rain/snow/sleet/ice no problems to report. Fingers crossed....

--MM

Kinda odd stats, it is probably just randomness - but lots of failures (10) under 3K, a few after 5K (3) but none between 3 and 5 K. Almost looks like most of those that are gonna fail do so pretty soon.

I'd be curious to now see if it has occurred in every 1000 VIN number range up to 10,000...eg 1000-2000, 2001-3000, etc. What is the highest that we've seen the AWD light come on and attributed to a corrosion problem.

MrClam said:

I'd be curious to now see if it has occurred in every 1000 VIN number range up to 10,000...eg 1000-2000, 2001-3000, etc. What is the highest that we've seen the AWD light come on and attributed to a corrosion problem.

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This would be pretty good statistics as well.

TigerBun504 said:

This would be pretty good statistics as well.

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Might be educational but then later VIN numbers would also tend to have fewer miles which might mask an issue if there is one.