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Question about 5000pd towing capactiy and AWD for a 2019 RL Sport AWD

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The Ridgeline's towing capacity is 3500pds in 2WD and 5000pds in 4WD. I want to tow a camper that weighs more that 3500pds, how do I put the truck into full time AWD? Or does the truck figure out that it's pulling more than the 2WD capacity and make the change to ADW automatically?
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Roger, while I'm not discounting failures of the Honda transmissions I will say that on some of the GM forums you'd think that every transmission in Cadillacs (8 speed in particular) has failed. Just about everyone who posts there seems to have transmissions worked on at the dealer. This is puny compared to that. But again, we don't know the true statistics. Just our little sample here.

How about on the Mazda forums. How are they holding up there ?

Steve
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I tend to compare Honda with themselves and keep going back to the fact that transmission failures were and still are very rare on the 2006-2014 Ridgeline. If the 1G has a failure rate of 0.1% and the 2G has a failure rate of 1.5% and 15x as many 6-speeds are failing than 5-speeds after the same time/mileage, then that really concerns me.

I haven't studied GM reliability and, to be honest, haven't spent much time on the Mazda forums, either, since I've not had any questions or problems.
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I have a friend who is an engineer for Honda R&D.. he was part of the Ridgeline project.. the AWD is actually capability of towing more than 5k but Honda only rates it as such because it's conservative and won't get anyone in trouble.. unlock the other midsize trucks claiming to be above 7k...

He did recommend that if you're towing for an extended amount of time, get yourself a transmission cooler added to the truck.
I thought trans coolers came on all ridgeline’s, or is that just gen 1’s?
I thought if you had an AWD version it automatically came with a tranny cooler, or maybe it was trims RTL and up....am I mistaken?
The Ridgeline's towing capacity is 3500pds in 2WD and 5000pds in 4WD. I want to tow a camper that weighs more that 3500pds, how do I put the truck into full time AWD? Or does the truck figure out that it's pulling more than the 2WD capacity and make the change to ADW automatically?
I believe that the limits are for a 2WD model vs. a 4WD model. It may not be a good idea to put any of the 4WD options (mud, sand, snow) into effect on dry pavement.
What does your friend have to say about nearly two dozen failed transmissions in 2017-2019 Ridgelines and even more with torque converter and pressure switch failures?
He says ....”get a life and move on”.....


124,000 Units sold ‘17-‘20. So 24 failed transmission units is .019% failure rate.

subtract the 24000 ‘20 units the failure rate is .024% failure rate.
I have a friend who is an engineer for Honda R&D.. he was part of the Ridgeline project.. the AWD is actually capability of towing more than 5k but Honda only rates it as such because it's conservative and won't get anyone in trouble.. unlock the other midsize trucks claiming to be above 7k...

He did recommend that if you're towing for an extended amount of time, get yourself a transmission cooler added to the truck.
Does the RT-LT AWD not come with a transmission cooler? When I bought my 2019 RT-LT AWD I just assumed since it has a towing package, it would have a transmission cooler.
Now can I say that I know a guy that knows a guy that is a Honda R&D engineer?
You could say you know that knows a guy😂
I thought trans coolers came on all ridgeline’s, or is that just gen 1’s?
External coolers come on all Ridgelines with AWD.
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He says ....”get a life and move on”.....


124,000 Units sold ‘17-‘20. So 24 failed transmission units is .019% failure rate.
Are you assuming that all transmission failures within the 124,000 sold have been reported on this forum? I think that that's a pretty big assumption, and one that I'd certainly not bet on...
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The Ridgeline's towing capacity is 3500pds in 2WD and 5000pds in 4WD. I want to tow a camper that weighs more that 3500pds, how do I put the truck into full time AWD? Or does the truck figure out that it's pulling more than the 2WD capacity and make the change to ADW automatically?
I have a RTL-E and tow a 2017 Airsteam BaseCamp. Weighs less than 3000 with half tank of fresh water and food supplies loaded. No problem towing on flat or short hill climbs. However, on gradual elevation climbs and at reasonable speeds, I have a transmission overheating warning on my dash. It is frustrating and I have had Honda service tell me that there is a transmission cooling feature on my truck. It doesn’t seem to be working. I caution anyone who thinks towing anything between 3000 to 5000 pounds is workable without transmission issues.
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The factory ATF cooler is indeed standard on all AWD. Note that it's rather small though, like 1 loop. You can see it next to the radiator. Perhaps the "engineer" meant upgrade it if you tow at the limit regularly.

Regarding failures, my dealer replaced my torque converter under the judder TSB, however, it was not the problem. I wonder if that gets picked up as a false positive in the failure rates.
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Anyone towing should be monitoring their TFT temps with something. An easy one is the Bluetooth scanner that plugs into the OBD2 port. Easy and effective with a graph readout as a history even. (as i've posted before in the transmission forums).

Personally I believe some transmissions and coolers are fine. And some have some kind of issues. It's possible that Honda engineers looked at it and just said "ahhhhhh" move onto the next one. Not an issue to worry about.

Steve
The Ridgeline's towing capacity is 3500pds in 2WD and 5000pds in 4WD. I want to tow a camper that weighs more that 3500pds, how do I put the truck into full time AWD? Or does the truck figure out that it's pulling more than the 2WD capacity and make the change to ADW automatically?
Weight is just one factor. Size and shape of the load can affect drag and therefore your towing performance. I used to pull a 19’ ski boat no problem. Weighing in around 4K with the trailer. The boat sat low and was aerodynamically shaped. I now tow a UTV that sits up much higher on its trailer and it creates a lot of drag. While it weighs half of what the boat did, I feel it a lot more when towing it.
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The factory ATF cooler is indeed standard on all AWD. Note that it's rather small though, like 1 loop. You can see it next to the radiator.
The 2G's ATF cooler is the same, basic, crossflow design as the 1G's and the 1G doesn't seem to have overheating problems like the 2G. ATF flows through 7 rows in the 1G and 6 rows in the 2G, but that doesn't necessarily mean heat transfer capability is less in the 2G (there are other variables such as materials of construction, fin spacing, smooth vs. finned internal paths, surface area, air flow, etc.).
If I were towing over 3000lbs, or a large box trailer, I'd be keeping it in D4. I'd rather the engine scream at 4500rpm all day and pay a few hundred dollars in extra gas as opposed to a few thousand dollars for a transmission R&R. YMMV.
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That method MIGHT work, But, it depends on how the transmission is programmed for the torque converter and how much it allows slipping to occur (which is heating up the fluid btw). See, the heat from a transmission isn't just generated like heat in an engine. The transmission is heating up from "losses" in power. Say for example your engine is putting out 220hp at 4,000rpm, That would be the power delivery to the transmission. The transmission then must use that power and transfer it as efficiently as possible to the rear axle and front axles. Any losses of power turn into "heat" and that heat is what we see as overheating in a transmission. So, it's up to the transmission heat exchanging circuit (see it's a heater and cooler remember) to transfer any excesses out of the circuit. So, if for example a well designed transmission circuit flows at a normal rate of 4 gallons per minute. If there end up being restrictions in the lines and other manufactured parts then you'll only get 3 gallons per minute for example. So, on a "clean" well designed and manufactured setup you get full flow of the 4. But others only get something less. And that something less can allow heat build up to occur in places that the transmission doesn't like. For example the torque converter. If it gets too hot then the torque converter plates will get excessive wear and the metal will "blue" out showing the excessive heat in the converter. I've seen all of this occur and when you see a blued converter it's easy to see it was overheated. The purpose of the fluid is to transfer efficiently that heat out of the units. If the fluid itself is compromised (black usually) then it's in a "burnt" category and isn't going to do the job anymore. Eventually the transmission plates and clutches burn up and the thing is shot. See, that's the importance of monitoring trans temps and even an occasional fluid smell and "feel" test. It's easy to feel the grittiness and see and smell the burning fluid (it smells like burned resistors). Monitor the situation and help yourself is my motto. Change the fluid regularly (30k is a good number unless towing more and heavier and I'd go to 15k) and also while taking fluid out send a sample for testing. That way you know where you stand at any point in time. I did mine at 30k. I'm monitoring the fluid color for now and have plans for the next fluid change at 60k (in 18k miles). Time will tell if I get this right. But knowing about fluid and transmissions I'm hoping my experience pays off in the long term.

Steve
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For what it is worth, I have pulled 4000+lb trailers and load over the blue ridge mountains with no issue at all. I have an RTS 2017 AWD, stick it in 4D and set the cruise no higher than 70mph.
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The Ridgeline's towing capacity is 3500pds in 2WD and 5000pds in 4WD. I want to tow a camper that weighs more that 3500pds, how do I put the truck into full time AWD? Or does the truck figure out that it's pulling more than the 2WD capacity and make the change to ADW automatically?
I pull a 20ft. travel trailer, about 3500 lbs. dry, with my 2019 Ridgeline RTL AWD. Traveling at 60-65 mph., it has to work a bit, but performance is good and never had a problem. The Ridgeline is a hybrid, a combination SUV and truck that fits my needs exactly, and it’s smaller towing capacity is a small price to pay for not bouncing down the road the rest of the time in a Chevrolet Colorado. Embrace the Ridgeline for what it is, and what it isn’t.
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The Ridgeline's towing capacity is 3500pds in 2WD and 5000pds in 4WD. I want to tow a camper that weighs more that 3500pds, how do I put the truck into full time AWD? Or does the truck figure out that it's pulling more than the 2WD capacity and make the change to ADW automatically?
The AWD model towing capacity is 5000 pounds. No need to worry about FWD vs AWD. If you own a FWD only model, your towing capacity is 3500.
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