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I suspect I have the dubious "honor" of being the first one in this forum to report someone breaking into a 2017 Ridgeline. It happened to me, most likely Sunday night/early morning or at least I suspect so. I went to get in my truck Monday morning for work and noticed my center console was open (which is never is) and it was cleaned out of some very important/expensive items. It was an important family heirloom that I will probably never be able to replace.

Before you say, "You shouldn't keep any valuables in your vehicle let alone in an unlocked compartment," - yes I know. I don't keep anything in plain sight and don't advertise that I keep anything valuable in it. I shouldn't have kept that stuff in there. Thanks.

If I were entirely at fault, I probably wouldn't have eaten my slice of humble pie and went on about my life and never mentioned anything here. Except that the more I examine what happened and how my vehicle is setup with the options it has - it makes me wonder if it was truly all my fault.

My faults:

1) I trusted the autolock. I've debated before internally and on this forum as to whether or not I was paranoid about it working 100%. But I decided I would. Big mistake.
2) Sunday afternoon, I had the keys looped on my belt and sat on the tailgate with a beer and talked to my Dad for about 30 minutes. I had gotten into the trunk to take out my tent for the winter but that was it. After I was done I put my keys up.
3) My key hook is, rather, was by my front door. The very front of the truck was around 10 feet (give or take a foot from my front door). Far enough that I would hear the beep from the truck saying autolock was engaged. Typically, I'm one to two feet from the truck at the most before it auto engages. I'll chalk this up as my fault again.

Flaws:

1) I have to consider if someone hasn't figured out the frequency to unlock my vehicle. I've worn enough "hats" over the years to know its not common but not impossible to capture and repeat that signal. I doubt this one but again, I have to consider it.
2) Auto-lock didn't engage. I have this setting on and it should after 30 seconds. I understand if I leave a door open or not closed fully, this won't happen. I double check this whenever I get out. If I get the fast beep, I will visually inspect every door without fail.

Now I'm not blaming Honda that my truck got broken into. But I am concerned that something failed beyond the human factor. It very well could have been that my wife or someone else did something that I didn't see. But as far as I know, I did what should have engaged the auto lock. I'm ready to be the one at blame and again, I probably am, but I sure am not convinced.



The moral of the story is this: Don't trust the autolock and don't leave valuables in your truck.
 

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I think the term "broken into" doesn't really fit this situation. Getting broken into involves some sort of "breaking" no? You thought your RL was locked and now realize that was not the case. People (thieves) often casually walk through neighborhoods at night pulling on door handles to see if vehicles are left unlocked. When they find one, they take whatever they want. I bet this is exactly what happened here. Sounds like maybe you might want to test the walk away lock feature in several scenarios to see if you can identify any failures. If you were not in the truck for 30 minutes, then entered to get something out and closed the doors, SHOULD the auto lock have worked in that scenario? Does it only work after the ignition cycles to off, like if you arrive at a destination and exit the vehicle. Does the owner's manual explain under what conditions it's supposed to work. I wouldn't expect it to just lock unless certain conditions were met.
 

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I think the term "broken into" doesn't really fit this situation. Getting broken into involves some sort of "breaking" no? You thought your RL was locked and now realize that was not the case. People (thieves) often casually walk through neighborhoods at night pulling on door handles to see if vehicles are left unlocked. When they find one, they take whatever they want. I bet this is exactly what happened here. Sounds like maybe you might want to test the walk away lock feature in several scenarios to see if you can identify any failures. If you were not in the truck for 30 minutes, then entered to get something out and closed the doors, SHOULD the auto lock have worked in that scenario? Does it only work after the ignition cycles to off, like if you arrive at a destination and exit the vehicle. Does the owner's manual explain under what conditions it's supposed to work. I wouldn't expect it to just lock unless certain conditions were met.
I don't really know what happened so I couldn't say if it was or wasn't broken into. That's how the police department classified it as, a break in. And yes, I am very familiar with people probing neighborhoods for unlocked vehicles.

FYI - I have gone through all sorts of scenario testing the auto lock. I haven't seen it fail. As far as the instruction manual and the settings show (to summarize): If the vehicle is parked (transmission in P) and the vehicle is off (you've pressed the star/stop button), you exit the vehicle with the key fob and close the doors, once you leave the vehicle's immediate vicinity, auto lock will engage at your selected time interval (settings are 30, 60 and 90 seconds). I never leave my vehicle unless all of the above conditions are met.

I do use the autostart but it does not unlock the doors and I am not in range when I initiate it. I'm not really looking for an answer - I posted this as a courtesy to other owners.
 

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Bummer Rex, sorry to hear about this. I failed to lock my wife's van two years ago the ONE NIGHT thieves hit our neighborhood. Got away with our iPod. Nothing irreplaceable however. Again, bummer.
 

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I gotta say I have Autolock enabled on my 15 CRV and I too question it's success rate. Sometimes I would realize I left my water bottle in the V. Parked in the garage, been there all night, approached without my key fob and she's open. My initial response was sweet, I don't have to go up stairs and get my fob. But then I wondered why wasn't she locked up tight. Does she know my garage is home. So I don't trust it anymore. It happened again at the mall and I was not pleased. Nothing went missing it was the shear fact that Autolock failed again.

Sorry they got your heirloom. I leave it engaged just as a failsafe for human error but I always lock my car.

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Sorry to hear. Just out of curiosity can I ask what part of town this happened in?

I like the idea of using auto lock as a secondary protection in the event you forget to lock the vehicle and will probably turn it back on for that reason, but I always try to push the button on the handle as I walk away.

As a side note the only good thing you can potentially take from this is that they didn't actually "break" in. Having to deal with broken glass all over and paying for a new window or other damage is possibly even worse than losing an item. I once had a window broken out to steal an 8 year old iPod. I would have given them the damn thing if they wouldn't have broken my window! I realize an iPod is not a family heirloom, but as the proverbial "piss people off even more" statement goes, it could be worse. Hopefully the filthy criminals are idiots, get caught, and you get your stuff back.
 

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Being an old fart I'm pretty custom to going back and checking if the doors locked or not, mainly because I can't remember, or I do things from habit and can't remember. My wife's new Acura has that walk away feature, my new RL will have it to, I listen for the beep when walking away, if I don't forget.

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Sorry about the lost item. My RTL-E just arrived; will pick up tomorrow. Posts on this forum, this thread and others, have convinced me not to rely on the auto lock feature. Additionally, I purchased a Fobguard pouch which will disable communication once the key fob is inserted. I'll have to figure out what inconvienances I want to endure regarding timing of insertion of fob into protective pouch. The experience of losing my '86 Toyota 4 Runner 18 months after purchase while sitting in a movie theater has made me paranoid about my RTL-E. Then, as now, replacing the vehicle took many months as they were all sold before ever hitting the car lots.
 

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I know that lots of people are having trouble with walk-away autolock. But for what it's worth, it works predictably and reliably for me. The only times when it doesn't work properly are when I rush away from the car before it has had a chance to fully shut down and then I get a warning signal. That may happen to me once or twice a month.

How do I know that it's working properly? Because I test it twice a day as a routine part of my normal workflow.

When I go out to the garage to get in my car every morning, my method of opening the door is to try the door with my hand. The door is always locked on the first pull, showing me that autolock worked. By the second pull the Ridgeline has recognized the key fob and the door is unlocked due to proximity. All you have to do is put your hand on the handle and wait for a brief moment for it to open. I merely added the test step of trying to open it during that interval. I do the same thing at the end of the day when I'm leaving work. It is always locked. If I saw any inconsistency at all in in its behavior I would've disabled it long ago. Quite the contrary, it works very reliably and I trust it.

If you decide you need to test it right after it locks, you need to put your keys down somewhere before you get within range to unlock it. Finally, I haven't made a study of this, but I learned early on that mixing key-fob-locking button presses with walkaway autolock don't does not work properly. If you're doing that without being sure whether your car is locked, you may actually be exacerbating the problem
 

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Did you have a pistol in the center console?
That is my thought as well. If this was it, I'm sure you would have provided the serial number, if it wasn't too old to not have one, to the police. This could be important if it is used for a bad purpose and recovered in the future. It may also help to catch the person if they are dumb enough to try and pawn it.

Sorry to hear about your story. That sucks.

Friends of mine park 3 vehicles outside in the driveway. Two of the three were broken into one night. Several neighbors reported the same. There were no broken windows. The police believed the bad guys used an electronic device of some sort to signal the cars to unlock. Not sure if that happened in your case or if the auto lock failed. Either way, it sucks and I'm sorry to hear bout your loss.

If it was a pistol, I do know a person who had his returned after a similar incident. The police eventually caught the high school kid who stole it carrying the gun, the serial number matched and he eventually got it back.
 

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I'm really sorry to hear about that Brando. I really do hope you get back whats yours. I had 2 basses stolen out of my Element 6 years ago. To this day I still check Craigslist and Ebay. Its too bad we cant go back to the days of chopping off thieves hands....
 

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If it was legal to "stand your ground" (like the Texas laws) and be able to shoot the people stealing your vehicle and contents, there would be a lot less of them trying to do so IMO. Just because we have a 2nd amendment right doesn't protect our items that we own. For that we leave it to a "stolen property" law which IMO isn't working anymore and needs to be strengthened somewhat.

Here at my place I was leaving my doors open on my Escape. One day I went to use my change out of the tray and it was all gone! My wallet was still there (no cash in it). And there was nothing else missing in the car. Turns out these thieves are targeting only change out of vehicles. There's been reports of it in every police blotter in our area. In my case I bought a security camera to cover the driveway. If someone messes around there now they'll be on candid camera with recordings for our friendly police. And I purposely bought one that will do night vision with IR leds.

Thing is, if someone wants your "stuff" they will get it. It just depends on how much work they want to go through to get it.

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"Stand your ground" laws do not allow any one to use deadly force to protect property.

Secondly almost all car break-ins happen when no one is around and involve unlocked doors. The thieves you want to kill are often teenagers.

I have had no issues with the auto lock. I listen for the beep and you can actually hear the locks engage.
 

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I use these around the house:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00RCW8QS2/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1476372268&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=motion+sensor+alarm&dpPl=1&dpID=41lx85i3gbL&ref=plSrch

Not necessarily for criminals, but monitoring movements of pets, or for bandits like raccoons. Would work for criminals, though....just need to place it strategically so it isn't triggered by stray cats or squirrels....

For security, I have an NVR with 4 1080p ip cams around the perimeter of the house...got it for $300 from Newegg last Black Friday, plus a 2tb purple hdd for another $75. I can access all cams from my smartphone or any computer connected to the internet. As with all cheap ip cams, I am sure some of the footage gets filtered through servers in China, but if they want to watch turkeys running through my front yard, that is fine with me. Now waiting for PTZ outdoor ip cams to become popular/affordable...
 

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From what I understand the 30 second( or whatever you set it at) is only for if you unlock the vehicle and don't open anything... it will auto lock in the set time....but I could be wrong
 

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Being an old fart I'm pretty custom to going back and checking if the doors locked or not, mainly because I can't remember, or I do things from habit and can't remember. My wife's new Acura has that walk away feature, my new RL will have it to, I listen for the beep when walking away, if I don't forget.

Always wondered what that button was for! :surprise:

Yeah, easy enough to punch the button and let the auto-lock be a backup. I think I may do that from now on. Of course a shiny new truck is a creep magnet - they figure you have nice stuff, I guess. I do have nice stuff but do not leave it in the truck. All they would get from mine is a few emergency items and most of those are in the trunk and I would bet your average dumb-ass thief does not even know that is there!
 

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I had the bad habit of keeping my spare valet key in my briefcase that I had inadvertently left in my 2003 CRV. Until it was stolen from my driveway when it was only about 6 moths old. I always double tapped the remote at bedtime to double check it was locked and that night I didn't hear the horn beep. went outside and it was gone. They found the CRV stripped of the stereo system, GPs, Escort radar detector and anything of value a few days later in Philly.

They caught the two brothers who stole it thanks to a jailhouse snitch who heard them brag about a CRV that had a pretty substantial audio system with amps and subs, etc. EZPass also had a photo of them smiling driving across the turnpike bridge. They paid a toll but there was an EZpass so it snapped a photo due to it being an unusual event.

I have a lot of valuable accessories on my motorcycle. When I stop and walk away I always remind myself of the meth-head rule. "If something is worth $3 of meth or more, they will steal it". I take the time to lock stuff away.

My 2017 BE doesn't beep when I double hit the lock button. Do I need to change a setting somewhere? The lights flash but there's no audible beep confirmation.
 
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