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Time to Get Started With RIDGELINE FUN. Today just measuring clearances around the brakes. I really didn't believe it had only 12.6 inch front brakes, same size as a 2005 Miata, and smaller than most our faster Miatas that weigh half what the Ridgeline does. Indeed it really is just 12.6 inches.



But along the way always curious to learn details like...how much does the stock wheel and tire package weigh?


 

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Just FYI,
2020 Midsize front brake rotor diameters:
Tacoma 10.8"
Ranger 12.2"
Canyon/Colorado 12.2"

I am running MDX front rotors and calipers on my GenI. Rotors are 13.0" diameter. Installed: MDX front brakes with EBC pads and rotors all...
Smufguy has aftermarket multi-piston calipers with matching rotors on his GenI but I don't know the dimensions.

In off-roading circles 17" and even 16" wheels are common for the mid sizers. For the truck market, rotor diameters seems to top out around where the Ridgeline is. I haven't really played around with the measurements but I would speculate that this size limit is a function of braking needs, caliper design and wheel diameter / offset specs.

If you are doing something one off just for your own vehicle then clearly you only need to worry about what will fit your chosen wheel package. If you are doing something to offer the Ridgeline community it probably should fit the stock wheel setup. Also from what I understand the GenI / GenII front brake assembly is cross compatible so perhaps that is even more food for thought if you come up with something to offer up to sell to the community.

Looking forward to a well sorted reasonably priced brake upgrade option :)
 

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Hey Brian, welcome! Glad to see you here. As a 2020 MX 5 GT owner I've followed your shop on the forums. I think a a big break kit for the Ridgeline would sell!
 
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Just FYI,
2020 Midsize front brake rotor diameters:
Tacoma 10.8"
Ranger 12.2"
Canyon/Colorado 12.2"

I am running MDX front rotors and calipers on my GenI. Rotors are 13.0" diameter. Installed: MDX front brakes with EBC pads and rotors all...
Smufguy has aftermarket multi-piston calipers with matching rotors on his GenI but I don't know the dimensions.

In off-roading circles 17" and even 16" wheels are common for the mid sizers. For the truck market, rotor diameters seems to top out around where the Ridgeline is. I haven't really played around with the measurements but I would speculate that this size limit is a function of braking needs, caliper design and wheel diameter / offset specs.

If you are doing something one off just for your own vehicle then clearly you only need to worry about what will fit your chosen wheel package. If you are doing something to offer the Ridgeline community it probably should fit the stock wheel setup. Also from what I understand the GenI / GenII front brake assembly is cross compatible so perhaps that is even more food for thought if you come up with something to offer up to sell to the community.

Looking forward to a well sorted reasonably priced brake upgrade option :)
Indeed I don't think Ridgeline unique in having mediocre brakes in the truck segment, nor is the issue unique to midsize trucks. My neighbor has an F150 with the twin turbo 3.5 liter, it's a rocket of a truck on the 0-60 and yet the stock brakes are pathetic, we split the drive on mountain snowboard days with me doing the drive home and every time we are coming down the mountain after a long day snowboarding I am reminded how much I hate the crap brakes on the F150. Nonetheless, Honda did such a good job on making the Ridgeline handle better than most trucks except for the brakes that I am surprised it didn't get more attention in the 2020 updates given that pretty much every great magazine review has long noted the stock Ridgeline's brake performance as one of their only reservations, Car and Driver's note being typical: 'Its braking distance from 70 mph to zero is on the long side, and we thought the brake pedal felt soft and had too much travel during normal use. ' I agree 100% with Car and Driver and I also think that a truck that handles as well as the Ridgeline deserves better, so at least mine is getting real good brakes, and we will make it fit in stock wheels. If enough of you like what you see us do, perhaps we make it a kit we offer.
 

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If enough of you like what you see us do, perhaps we make it a kit we offer.
Ooooh! I'd be up for some better brakes.

As a bit of a track junkie myself (back in my skinner, faster days), I know and appreciate the importance of great brakes. Especially coming down the hill off the back straight at Road Atlanta....I only went into the kitty litter once. Slowing from 150mph is not as easy as it sounds. LOL!
 
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First Road trip and Camping Trip for our new Ridgeline starts 4am tomorrow! What better way to get the break in miles done than a road trip? Got over 500 miles to do tomorrow...BEFORE LUNCH. :cool:

Already love the trunk, ALL our camping gear went in the trunk. This picture is before I added the second sleeping bag, tent is already under the first sleeping bag, plus air mattress and some tripods and everything else needed ended up going in the trunk. Love that feature!
 

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Can Ryan measure the stock brake lines as well? Another $ idea for you, make a SS brake line kit. That with the new calipers would be a great combo meal. As long as the brake pads you end up using are common, I’m in.
 

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The G1 Front StopTech or Rotora big brake kits fit the front of the G2. For the rear you may need to fabricate the hat.

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The G1 Front StopTech or Rotora big brake kits fit the front of the G2. For the rear you may need to fabricate the hat.

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Thanks, we started here with checking the StopTech catalog and our copy does not currently show any kits for Ridgeline. So whatever they did appears may be out of production. We also really want something that fits in stock wheels and from our extensive experience with them that usually means no fat Stoptech calipers. One big reason kits come and go is that lack of ability to fit in stock wheels, an issue we will avoid here. Nonetheless, will have Ryan reach out to them about what they did prior and whether they still have template available to check in stock G2 wheels. As for Rotora, they make good product but price range makes it rare, I think we can do a solid setup for less costs, and have rotor replacement costs that are more reasonable.

Ryan knows everyone at StopTech pretty well, kits we helped develop with them are in our HyperMiata project, which holds numerous Miata track lap records and features in a lot of StopTech marketing:


Our Ryan Passey in the SEMA Stoptech booth noting how many times our HyperMiata project got honored by being featured in their marketing this past year.


Nonetheless, despite big respect for the Stoptech calipers, we know the design is such that it is unlikely to get inside the G2 stock wheel without a lot of spacers we don't want to use. Therefore, expect we will be using narrow 6 piston Wilwoood calipers on this project.
 
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Our Ridgeline did over 560 miles yesterday by lunch. It was easy and smooth miles. Did the same drive a month ago in our old V8 Dakota shop truck at 16mpg, nice improvement to 22.6 mpg average in the Ridgeline.

 

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Our Ridgeline did over 560 miles yesterday by lunch. It was easy and smooth miles. Did the same drive a month ago in our old V8 Dakota shop truck at 16mpg, nice improvement to 22.6 mpg average in the Ridgeline.

Very nice. I will be taking my first road trip in a few weeks for a long weekend at Lake Norman. It will be nice to see my MPG after getting away from the mountains of West Virginia. So far, I have never been able to surpass 19 MPG, even with driving the Interstate everyday to work and back.
 
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Very nice. I will be taking my first road trip in a few weeks for a long weekend at Lake Norman. It will be nice to see my MPG after getting away from the mountains of West Virginia. So far, I have never been able to surpass 19 MPG, even with driving the Interstate everyday to work and back.
The official dash pic that I took as we rolled up to our destination Thursday. Did this same 565 mile drive a month ago in our old shop truck, a 2008 Dakota V8 and averaged just 16 mpg so 22.6mpg is a awesome improvement and we averaged 74 mph.

 

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The official dash pic that I took as we rolled up to our destination Thursday. Did this same 565 mile drive a month ago in our old shop truck, a 2008 Dakota V8 and averaged just 16 mpg so 22.6mpg is a awesome improvement and we averaged 74 mph.
If the 2020 Ridgeline's trip computer over-indicates by 7-10% like the 2017-2019's does, then that 22.6 is probably closer to 20.5 to 21.
 

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