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Copy of something I started in another thread, time for dedicated thread because it was LOVE AT FIRST drive of the prototype and we are proceeding with further testing and development.


REPOST from the Springs Thread:

Okay, Springs finally on the way again to us, hope to see them at our shop Tuesday next week and we will get all the pre-orders finally on the road to customers! Thanks to all for waiting.

Since we had a lot of delay on this, decided we would knock out another item.....REAR SWAY BAR UPGRADE. As noted before, I already put more rate in the rear springs compared to the other choice on the market and that was for better balance than the other choice, and a bit more support when towing. That 400 rear spring rate helps, but I would have gone further if the stock shocks/struts would handle more. So, to get the handling even more flat in the turns and even better balance we are doing just a rear sway bar upgrade with more rate than stock. This sort of reminds me of my old 08 Dakota Sport that I factory ordered with rear sway bar upgrade and I have not regretted that a bit as I have run down slow driven sportscars in the twisties with a truck, but Honda won't do that sort of factory option. If you want your Ridgeline really neutral in the corners and not the usual truck plowing/understeer, then our springs and this sway will be the way. Springs finally shipping next week, this sway is a final prototype and I am going to put some hard miles pushing on it before it can possibly get a green light for production. That means if the Sway Upgrade goes to production it is many months from now, this is just a sneak peak.

Don't get too hung up on the numbers, there are many different ways to measure the rate of a bar setup and most companies do the naked bar rate and that is not very helpful in my mind because bars are ONLY used as translated through the mounting and too often the mounts are left to do all the flexing that the bar is not doing. So, we test in a rig with the mounting hardware. That means we put a lot more work into the mounting stiffness and you can see here the gusseted brackets and that we sandwich a steel plate at the attachment to the chassis. Result is much stronger than stock mounting. The bar is 28.5mm solid, and if the stock bar has a rate of 100# as mounted with stock mounting, here you are getting 200# and 234# (depending on attachment point of the endlinks). Yes, we are neatly doubling rear sway bar rate and a bit more...and the difference is instantly obvious on freeway ramps. Long before this gets a green light I will make a dedicated thread for it, but for those who want to watch the progress we put it on the site at THIS LINK and you can sign up there for notifications. These Anti-roll bars are cold-formed using custom-built precision bending equipment. Laser-cut and CNC bar ends are MIG welded in place using a precise fixture for an exact fit that is more durable than alternatives used by some other choices.



Yes, we color match it to the springs with same super durable finish.

 

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Brian, how easy is the install? Hoping to hear it’s a “bolt-on in the garage” for a handy amateur. Also, any concerns about using the heavy bar with the stock springs?

Although the G2 seems to push a lot less than the G1, I’d like to reduce it still further, but tackling the springs is outside of my comfort zone.
 
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Brian, how easy is the install? Hoping to hear it’s a “bolt-on in the garage” for a handy amateur. Also, any concerns about using the heavy bar with the stock springs?

Although the G2 seems to push a lot less than the G1, I’d like to reduce it still further, but tackling the springs is outside of my comfort zone.
Sway bar is easy, perhaps an hour for most folks. Yes, could easily be done at home. Yes, springs are a lot more work to change. Yes, can be used with stock springs.
 
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