Just like you, I got the 0% financing on a 2020 right after the 21s rolled out and I’m glad I did. After a couple of years with the 2020 BE, I think I’m good for a long time (hopefully). Despite all the talk about how much better the front end looks on the 21-23s, I like the 2020 better. The DRLs are not chopped off at the top and it just looks more refined to me. BUT, if I were in my 40s I wouldn’t be opposed to “upgrading”, but at 63 I’m ready to be done and get serious about retirement. I would wait for the full redesign on the Ridgeline however OR get that snazzy new Colorado. That truck is gorgeous. Good luck!
Should I upgrade
I have a 2020 BE with pretty low mileage (approx 25K miles). Have recently been thinking of possibly upgrading. I know the 24 is supposed to have some interesting updates but those will probably come at a $$ cost. So Just thought I would see what others might do. Would you wait and spend the extra on a 24? It looks like infotainment might be upgraded and as that is my biggest (and pretty much only) gripe with my 20 BE. I also like the look of the 2021 and beyond better as well though. Or would you get what would probably be a sweet deal on a 23? I am sure they will be offering pretty good deals as that is how I got a good deal on my 20 as they 21's were starting to roll out soon after I bought it. Or would you go for the new Colorado which has a far superior infotainment and looks like a really nice truck? I actually had a 2018 Canyon before the Ridgeline and it was a pretty nice truck actually. Or would you do what is probably the smartest thing economically and just keep the 2020BE?
Just curious what others may think. Truth be told I will probably just keep the 2020BE but was just curious to see others opinions on the subject.
Just curious what others may think. Truth be told I will probably just keep the 2020BE but was just curious to see others opinions on the subject.
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Many here have been financially responsible and successful their entire life, even with "gnat" like attention spans.Many here are apparently part of the YOLO crowd, with the attention span of a gnat,
Yep, only once. You do you.
Thoughts on the "maybe I should upgrade as my warranty is expiring" thought: To me a car that has had no problems during the first 3yr/36000 mile period is probably a good car and the get a new warranty plan seems like not a great option. Your opinion may vary. This is the reasoning I use when the finance officer brow beats me about not buying a longer warranty-if is it bad the first 3 years I will trade it in. But so far all my hondas have been fantastic.
I always figured it is good to upgrade at a cost of $3k per year. I should probably raise that a bite now.I have a 2020 BE with pretty low mileage (approx 25K miles). ....
So I had a 2019 RTL-E with 10k miles. In Oct of 2021 a salesman called and said they have a 2022 BE. My wife and I stopped in, liked the BE, took it for a test drive.... 2 hours later we drove it home at a total cost of $10,600 which include taxes and registration. We think it was a great deal to move up 3 years. But you could consider that the 2019 cost about $1 per mile . I also consider that the 2022 would be worth that much more when I trade it in.
So you have 25k miles and a 2020. You want to move up 4 years. I would guess a good for you might be around $19k out the door.
I'm an owner of a 2022 RTL-E (my 3rd 2nd Gen) and I'm seriously looking at the 2024 Ranger Lariet, now that it's going to have the 2.7 Ecoboost V6 available. My past experience with Ford's adaptive cruise is favorable compared to the Honda's. They will also offer surround view camera's which I really like for parking. Their infotainment system is much better than Honda's. Just waiting for the order books to open up. I guess I'm just tired of waiting for Honda to step up their game.I tend to agree with this usually, and with most things I am as frugal as they come. For some reason vehicles seem to be the kryptonite to my frugality, lol.
Yep, I am definitely looking for opinions and appreciate them all. You are of course right especially when you add in things that even go beyond the depreciation things like registration and insurance costs make the financial aspect look even worse. I am most likely going to keep it as small things aside (infotainment system), It has been a great truck and the financial side is hard to argue with.
I was also just thinking with retirement approaching within the next couple years would I be better to buy my possibly last vehicle before then with a really large trade in rather then wait until a few years into retirement where who knows what they might cost then. But the responses so far on here, (along with my aforementioned frugality) have me thinking that getting more run time out of this one might be the way to go.
Thank you both for your thoughts.
I like the Ranger as well. The only thing i don't like is that the only way to get an “auto track” type function (like the Colorado has)where it works like an all wheel drive is to get the very top trim from what I can tell at least. I really like that option as then i don't have to constantly switch between 4H and 2H when conditions can vary significantly multiple times along the type of roads I mostly travel (at least in winter).I'm an owner of a 2022 RTL-E (my 3rd 2nd Gen) and I'm seriously looking at the 2024 Ranger Lariet, now that it's going to have the 2.7 Ecoboost V6 available. My past experience with Ford's adaptive cruise is favorable compared to the Honda's. They will also offer surround view camera's which I really like for parking. Their infotainment system is much better than Honda's. Just waiting for the order books to open up. I guess I'm just tired of waiting for Honda to step up their game.
Actually, as this current truck is owned outright and most of what i have seen peg its value at around 35k or so i want thinking I could get into a new one for 10-12k over that value. Of course not knowing what the 24’s might sell for it could be more I guess. At this point however unless I fall in love with the new Colorado or Ranger i think I will probably stay put with what I have for now at least.I always figured it is good to upgrade at a cost of $3k per year. I should probably raise that a bite now.
So I had a 2019 RTL-E with 10k miles. In Oct of 2021 a salesman called and said they have a 2022 BE. My wife and I stopped in, liked the BE, took it for a test drive.... 2 hours later we drove it home at a total cost of $10,600 which include taxes and registration. We think it was a great deal to move up 3 years. But you could consider that the 2019 cost about $1 per mile . I also consider that the 2022 would be worth that much more when I trade it in.
So you have 25k miles and a 2020. You want to move up 4 years. I would guess a good for you might be around $19k out the door.
You must have missed the part where I said...Many here have been financially responsible and successful their entire life, even with "gnat" like attention spans.
Yep, only once. You do you.
If he is paying cash for the truck, has a large pile of money saved/invested, and has nothing better to do with these funds, then go right ahead and "upgrade".
You must have missed the part where I said...
Nope. I read gooder than I write.
I keep thinking of changing from my 2017 RL. A lot of fear (justified or not) of the 6-speed tranny. I absolutely love the look of the new GM twins. The 24 Tacoma looks good as well. The reality is the RL will still likely be far more reliable than the GM twins and they will be hard to find and likely well over MSRP. The Tacoma will likely stay with the seating position I found to be uncomfortable and will be hard to find as well. So, likely stay with my 17 I guess. Maybe a 2024 RL...? Good luck with your decision OP.
Changes in mid-sized trucks are coming fast and furious. Chevy Colorado has gone military (infantry vehicle), Ford Ranger is greatly upgraded, Toyota Tacoma - OMG - wider, faster, eight different levels. No matter what you buy now, in three years it will be very outdated.
My advice - go look look at all the newest midsize trucks, salivate, and make a date to do that again in a year or two. Each year, put a little money aside for your next purchase, and in about five years, RL may have caught up with the others where it matters. You’ll have plenty for a down payment, you’ll get a really nice upgrade, and you will have skipped one whole trade-buy cycle. I drove a ‘98 T-100 for 22 years, until its reliability began to fade. When I got a ‘22 RTL, is was a GIANT upgrade.
I would like the Ridgeline better with a turbo 2.5 and hybrid drive, but nothing else about my RTL leaves me wanting,
My advice - go look look at all the newest midsize trucks, salivate, and make a date to do that again in a year or two. Each year, put a little money aside for your next purchase, and in about five years, RL may have caught up with the others where it matters. You’ll have plenty for a down payment, you’ll get a really nice upgrade, and you will have skipped one whole trade-buy cycle. I drove a ‘98 T-100 for 22 years, until its reliability began to fade. When I got a ‘22 RTL, is was a GIANT upgrade.
I would like the Ridgeline better with a turbo 2.5 and hybrid drive, but nothing else about my RTL leaves me wanting,
Seating position is fixed on the new Tacoma. Note that the new Tacoma won't be available at the dealers until December.The Tacoma will likely stay with the seating position I found to be uncomfortable and will be hard to find as well. So, likely stay with my 17 I guess. Maybe a 2024 RL...? Good luck with your decision OP.
The guy Andrey at TFLTruck is 6'2" and pretty sure weighs over 230-240 lbs and he mentions he fits well on the driver seat on the new Tacoma in his reviews. Average height for males in the US is 5'9" - in other words, a large majority won't have any problems.
As for Honda catching up, they won't because they have a different target market and the Ridgeline suits those buyers just fine. Average buyer for a Ridgeline is a male boomer, most at that age are looking for NART (preferring ride quality, occasional hauling/towing maybe?) and you won't find them off-road, nor overlanding. I believe HONDA only sells about 40K Ridgelines per year. Do note that those 'Tacoma' owners are getting older as well (average age is a GEN'X range @ 49) and I'm pretty sure they will be future 'Ridgeline' buyers.
Honda will be fixing the tech on the Ridgeline going forward (larger screen, better wireless charger, and etc) but them making it as overlanding / offroad capable as the other trucks will alienate their existing customer base ( ride quality / cabin space being the primary features the existing customers prioritized ).
Seating position has been CHANGED, raised by just 1.18 inches.Seating position is fixed on the new Tacoma.
Prospective buyers would need to actually sit in and test drive the truck to determine whether this 1" change has FIXED it.
As with everything, it's all speculation - best thing is for the prospective buyer to test drive when they come out (December) and see if it fits them, nevertheless - the guy in the video below is 6'8" <-- yes.Seating position has been CHANGED, raised by just 1.18 inches.
Prospective buyers would need to actually sit in and test drive the truck to determine whether this 1" change has FIXED it.
Tacoma info from the lead engineer.
All good points, and I have read that RL gets whatever seemed to work well on the Pilot. Upgrades that would matter to a current RL owner would be better low RPM torque (turbo) for those of us who do tow, better mpg (hybrid) and whatever electronics become mainstream in the next few years.Seating position is fixed on the new Tacoma. Note that the new Tacoma won't be available at the dealers until December.
The guy Andrey at TFLTruck is 6'2" and pretty sure weighs over 230-240 lbs and he mentions he fits well on the driver seat on the new Tacoma in his reviews. Average height for males in the US is 5'9" - in other words, a large majority won't have any problems.
As for Honda catching up, they won't because they have a different target market and the Ridgeline suits those buyers just fine. Average buyer for a Ridgeline is a male boomer, most at that age are looking for NART (preferring ride quality, occasional hauling/towing maybe?) and you won't find them off-road, nor overlanding. I believe HONDA only sells about 40K Ridgelines per year. Do note that those 'Tacoma' owners are getting older as well (average age is a GEN'X range @ 49) and I'm pretty sure they will be future 'Ridgeline' buyers.
Honda will be fixing the tech on the Ridgeline going forward (larger screen, better wireless charger, and etc) but them making it as overlanding / offroad capable as the other trucks will alienate their existing customer base ( ride quality / cabin space being the primary features the existing customers prioritized ).
The issue Antares mentioned was not whether a tall person can fit in the new Tacoma, it was that he found the seating position to be uncomfortable.nevertheless - the guy in the video below is 6'8" <-- yes.
The video I posted with the 6'8" stated he fits well due toThe issue Antares mentioned was not whether a tall person can fit in the new Tacoma, it was that he found the seating position to be uncomfortable.
Truck being taller
Windshield rake is less
Higher Seat
Much beat seat (powered)
Controls (telescoping steering wheel, tilt adjust)
Given the truck ain't available to test drive (and won't be for a while), only thing we can do is speculate and listen to reviews
How is the 2024 Toyota Tacoma seating position? 6'8" guy demonstrates
One of the questions is about the 2024 Toyota Tacoma seating position, I got the tallest guy I know at 6'8" to climb into the midsize truck.
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First, the video was just some random guy voicing over his personal thoughts. The tall guy literally said nothing about the seating position.The video I posted with the 6'8" stated he fits well due to...
Given the truck ain't available to test drive (and won't be for a while), only thing we can do is speculate and listen to reviews
Second, the guy sat there for all of 30 seconds with the door open. Wouldn't you actually need to use & drive the truck before forming an opinion about the comfort?
Third, look at his seating position! He's sitting on the very edge of the seat bottom, on top of the (non-existent) 'bolster', with his rear end literally hanging over the cushion.
Based on the video, the seat appears extremely narrow and unsupportive.
Imagine how uncomfortable it would be with the door closed. His body would be smashed up against the door panel.
How about this one? - explicitly answered by a big guy who actually drove / ride on previous Tacomas?First, the video was just some random guy voicing over his personal thoughts. The tall guy literally said nothing about the seating position.
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