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The RL did well, and I'd call that an extreme test.
TFL Truck on IKE Gauntlet Towing 4840 lbs
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Robert - Thanks for loaning them your baby! Hard to argue with the test and results. That was a really great job by the RL. It definitely confirms what I already knew based on towing my nearly 5,000 lb boat for years with my 2010 G1 RL.
The G2 will have no issues with any semi-aerodynamic trailer under 5,000 lbs.
The mpg was awesome. Comparing the Ike Gauntlet test of the GMC Canyon Diesel (they towed a 5,600 lb horse trailer in the Feb 2016 GMC test): The GMC got 6.7 mpg with its 2.8L TURBO DIESEL and the uphill took 8 mins 55 secs. So the G2 getting 6.4 mpg with 4,840 lbs and a non-turbo gas engine is far more impressive in my book.
I'm a diesel fan too (2015 RAM EcoDiesel) but definitely moving to the G2 as my next rig...
P.S. No verbal mention of ROC by Nathan and Andre but they ran the banner under them for a while...
The G2 will have no issues with any semi-aerodynamic trailer under 5,000 lbs.
The mpg was awesome. Comparing the Ike Gauntlet test of the GMC Canyon Diesel (they towed a 5,600 lb horse trailer in the Feb 2016 GMC test): The GMC got 6.7 mpg with its 2.8L TURBO DIESEL and the uphill took 8 mins 55 secs. So the G2 getting 6.4 mpg with 4,840 lbs and a non-turbo gas engine is far more impressive in my book.
I'm a diesel fan too (2015 RAM EcoDiesel) but definitely moving to the G2 as my next rig...
P.S. No verbal mention of ROC by Nathan and Andre but they ran the banner under them for a while...
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Two things I notice watching videos about how the Ridgeline tows: no one seems to use weight distribution hitches and people tow 5,000 pounds without trailer brakes. They at least have breaks in this video but most I have watched don't have them.
Granted the ridgeline has more capability than my Odyssey but I wouldn't tow my 2,500 pound trailer without a weight distribution hitch. Here in California it is illegal to tow a trailer over 1,500 pounds without trailer breaks.
Granted the ridgeline has more capability than my Odyssey but I wouldn't tow my 2,500 pound trailer without a weight distribution hitch. Here in California it is illegal to tow a trailer over 1,500 pounds without trailer breaks.
Guess you missed some of my towing videos. I always use WDH even on the G1. I wouldnt tow without it either especially on curvy mountain roads. Glad G2 honda manual says you can now use one if it is setup properly. I really like the E2 WDH with friction sway control.
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Wow, very impressive. I can't believe it towed that well without a WDH. I'd LOVE to know what the tongue weight was.
Pretty impressive - I like Roman but I think it was a more fair review with Nathan and Andre.
That said, they noted that it didn't have much engine breaking on the way down the hill - correct me if I'm wrong they were in D and not D4 the entire trip. Wouldn't they have done better overall in D4? Especially toward the end where the RL waited to drop down a gear.
That said, they noted that it didn't have much engine breaking on the way down the hill - correct me if I'm wrong they were in D and not D4 the entire trip. Wouldn't they have done better overall in D4? Especially toward the end where the RL waited to drop down a gear.
Thanks! I will be posting build instruction on the Camera soon.
The tongue weight was 460lbs. They used a weight distribution hitch without the trunion bars. The new trailer was'nt setup yet with the L brackets.
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I noticed that, too. Did they not realize that the 'D4' and 'L' were there for that purpose? They didn't discuss it at all -- that seemed odd.
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Impressive. I'm glad the TW was that much and it still performed well without distributing the weight.
After watching the vid, I was reading some of the you tube comments and someone asked if they used D4. Nathan or Andre posted that they tried D4 but it wasn't making any difference.
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yeah, same here. It is annoying as it is just stubbornness on top of ignorance that makes them say that. The pilot is a ridgeline without a bed.
But it is a good review and they were both surprised at how well the G2 towed and I think that is what most people will think once they drive one.
and 150 per person....uh, maybe when they were in Jr high? lol! I would figure 500lbs combined weight based on reviewers own comments and size comparison) which put the "towing" weight (according to honda) 5300+ Not bad for an "niche/suv/pilot with a bed" TRUCK! aaaand it beat all them other boats up the hill now, didn't it!? muhahahah! :grin:
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In every dashboard shot, the transmission was in D. Seems to me they didn't try any other positions, especially L.
D4 gives medium engine braking. Just hit the button anytime you are coming off highway speed and you'll see. L is just a more extreme version of D4. Drop it in L at 70 as you decel, the trans will kick in extreme engine braking once it deems road speed is low enough for a downshift. You can also rocket out of a turn in L, it's an aggressive sport mode. Just shift to D right after you floor it and the truck will do the rest.
L is also a big compliment to the brakes. Drop in L as you are braking, and you'll see some serious stopping power.
Lots of practice with D4 and L is very rewarding, and the only way to realize the true full potential of the truck's abilities.
All in all a great review!
D4 gives medium engine braking. Just hit the button anytime you are coming off highway speed and you'll see. L is just a more extreme version of D4. Drop it in L at 70 as you decel, the trans will kick in extreme engine braking once it deems road speed is low enough for a downshift. You can also rocket out of a turn in L, it's an aggressive sport mode. Just shift to D right after you floor it and the truck will do the rest.
L is also a big compliment to the brakes. Drop in L as you are braking, and you'll see some serious stopping power.
Lots of practice with D4 and L is very rewarding, and the only way to realize the true full potential of the truck's abilities.
All in all a great review!
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SUPER IMPRESSED, AGAIN!!!
I noticed Four (4) Major things...as I watched the similar TFL Truck Super IKE videos on the...
2015 Tacoma
2016 Tacoma
2016 Tundra CrewMax TRD Pro...
...of which we'd owned a '13 Tacoma TRD Sport LB w/TRD Exhaust, and a '11 5.7L Tundra CrewMax TRD Off Road w/TRD Dual Exhaust.
A) HUGE difference in cabin noise and engine noise on all the Toyotas...and engine "strain" and shifting (on the Tacos)...
- The RL seemed to move right along at mostly 4,500 rpm (about)
- Our Tundra used to yawn at our old Ski Boat. (and the Tundra video is correct...the TRD Dual Exhaust sounded AMAZING to me most of the time, but it could be loud at times too...mostly AMAZING. ;-)
- The Taco would just rev way up like these videos also show...and not really the "cool" snarl that the Tundra V8 used to make...more like our straight 6 4.9L '92 F150 was many years ago (just really trying hard).
B) Pulling MPGs...
- Now obviously they were NOT all pulling the same exact weight, BUT...
- Our firsthand experience is that our RL has been averaging a 30%-35% improvement of MPG's over our old '13 Taco...so it would seem in pulling, too.
'17 Ridgeline 6.4 MPG
'16 Tacoma 4.5 MPG
'16 Tundra 2.9 MPG (much more weight)
'15 Tacoma Unknown (but I'm sure it wasn't pretty from our own experiences...pulling our old Malibu Response LX)
C) How Tight the Seating Positions are in the Taco...
- Notice how much closer together the reviews are sitting to each other in the Taco's.
- Again, HUGE for people like me that are 6'-5"...really for my wife and I, the RL is the perfect size after owning the Tundra CrewMax and the Taco.
D) Payload on our RL RTS is 1,580 lbs...
- Which is 25 lbs. more than our '11 Tundra CrewMax...that is interesting.
- 360 lbs. more than our ole '13 Taco, too.
I noticed Four (4) Major things...as I watched the similar TFL Truck Super IKE videos on the...
2015 Tacoma
2016 Tacoma
2016 Tundra CrewMax TRD Pro...
...of which we'd owned a '13 Tacoma TRD Sport LB w/TRD Exhaust, and a '11 5.7L Tundra CrewMax TRD Off Road w/TRD Dual Exhaust.
A) HUGE difference in cabin noise and engine noise on all the Toyotas...and engine "strain" and shifting (on the Tacos)...
- The RL seemed to move right along at mostly 4,500 rpm (about)
- Our Tundra used to yawn at our old Ski Boat. (and the Tundra video is correct...the TRD Dual Exhaust sounded AMAZING to me most of the time, but it could be loud at times too...mostly AMAZING. ;-)
- The Taco would just rev way up like these videos also show...and not really the "cool" snarl that the Tundra V8 used to make...more like our straight 6 4.9L '92 F150 was many years ago (just really trying hard).
B) Pulling MPGs...
- Now obviously they were NOT all pulling the same exact weight, BUT...
- Our firsthand experience is that our RL has been averaging a 30%-35% improvement of MPG's over our old '13 Taco...so it would seem in pulling, too.
'17 Ridgeline 6.4 MPG
'16 Tacoma 4.5 MPG
'16 Tundra 2.9 MPG (much more weight)
'15 Tacoma Unknown (but I'm sure it wasn't pretty from our own experiences...pulling our old Malibu Response LX)
C) How Tight the Seating Positions are in the Taco...
- Notice how much closer together the reviews are sitting to each other in the Taco's.
- Again, HUGE for people like me that are 6'-5"...really for my wife and I, the RL is the perfect size after owning the Tundra CrewMax and the Taco.
D) Payload on our RL RTS is 1,580 lbs...
- Which is 25 lbs. more than our '11 Tundra CrewMax...that is interesting.
- 360 lbs. more than our ole '13 Taco, too.
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The Gen 2 handled that Ike pull better than most of the many 1/2 ton trucks I have owned going back to the 1970s. Seeing the engine at 4500 rpm is not a concern at all, it could literally run like that all day long --- no different than driving a manual transmission truck up a grade like that and going into a lower gear to keep the engine rpm at the torque peak. The Gen 2 torque peak is somewhere between 4500 and 5000 rpm so the tranny did a great job of keeping it in the sweet spot.
I thought the truck did an OUTSTANDING job, the comments by the haters on the youtube page are just comical. The truck was composed, handled well, got great gas mileage, had plenty of power to accelerate at any time in the climb, managed the trailer weight without extreme squat or squirrely issues ---- other than limited engine braking going downhill, you couldn't ask for a better performance.
That test made Honda look really good, and it didn't cost them a red cent.
I thought the truck did an OUTSTANDING job, the comments by the haters on the youtube page are just comical. The truck was composed, handled well, got great gas mileage, had plenty of power to accelerate at any time in the climb, managed the trailer weight without extreme squat or squirrely issues ---- other than limited engine braking going downhill, you couldn't ask for a better performance.
That test made Honda look really good, and it didn't cost them a red cent.
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