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I wonder how many people with 15+ year old vehicles or even 10 year old vehicles are still using the same computer, cell phone, tablet, Blackberry etc. that the bought the year they bought their vehicle?
That's a bit of apples and oranges though. No one expects a cell phone to last 10 years - you're meant to be able to easily replace a cell phone or computer within a few years as technology changes. IE, you go to the mobile store, buy a new phone, they port your number and you're out the door in 15 minutes. Wireless networks update communication technology in order to adopt faster and more efficient communication systems which require newer hardware to support their use. No one expects a cell phone to last 15 years and the cost reflects that.

The navigation system is built into the Ridgeline and it is difficult/expensive to replace. The clock is the most basic function of the system. When the nav system is not in use, you see the clock. Frankly, most users would never replace that and in most cases, you expect that it will be used for the life of the vehicle, which could easily extend beyond 10 to 15 years.

Plus, has the date and time encoding from GPS changed over the last few years? It's not like there's a new scheme in how dates and time are conveyed which necessitate newer hardware, as is the case with cell phones.

This is clearly a Honda screw up and not a problem with expectations. I don't think it's too much to ask for the clock to work on a 10 year old car.
 

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Technically the problem is with the GPS receiver module made by Furuno. It is giving the navigation unit invalid date information. So maybe Furuno should be blamed?

On the other hand, the navigation unit does have a microcontroller with flash memory. In theory, with enough effort, it probably would be possible to update the microcontroller's software with a work around for the bad date info received from the GPS receiver. But some have said here that the navigation unit was developed by a sub contractor, not Honda. So maybe it's the subcontractor's fault?

I'm not sure if this situation is really different from when the radio failed in my Ranger after 20 years. The truck was still functional and safe, it just didn't have a working radio. I could fix the problem by installing a new radio.

At least people with 2006 to 2014 Ridgelines have the option of fixing the problem by replacing the head unit with a new one with built in navigation. It will be expensive, sure, but it can be done. Owners of 2nd Generation Ridgelines (except the ones like my 2019 RTL with the color radio) won't be so lucky if there is a similar problem because the head unit is much more highly integrated into their vehicles than it probably should be.
 

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That's a bit of apples and oranges though. No one expects a cell phone to last 10 years - you're meant to be able to easily replace a cell phone or computer within a few years as technology changes. IE, you go to the mobile store, buy a new phone, they port your number and you're out the door in 15 minutes. Wireless networks update communication technology in order to adopt faster and more efficient communication systems which require newer hardware to support their use. No one expects a cell phone to last 15 years and the cost reflects that.

The navigation system is built into the Ridgeline and it is difficult/expensive to replace. The clock is the most basic function of the system. When the nav system is not in use, you see the clock. Frankly, most users would never replace that and in most cases, you expect that it will be used for the life of the vehicle, which could easily extend beyond 10 to 15 years.

Plus, has the date and time encoding from GPS changed over the last few years? It's not like there's a new scheme in how dates and time are conveyed which necessitate newer hardware, as is the case with cell phones.

This is clearly a Honda screw up and not a problem with expectations. I don't think it's too much to ask for the clock to work on a 10 year old car.
Computers are computers. Their purposes may be different, but they are still computers and they all become outdated. My current iPhone cost more than the price of a new head unit.

When I got my new iPhone they assigned it my number, BUT they didn't transfer all my data to the new phone. If keeping old technology up to date was simple, we would all still be using one of these..........................
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......................................instead of buying new phones, laptops, tablets, etc every few years. Technology marches on, where as many people don't.

Also some computers are more programable than others depending on their function. All hardware is not the same, as such all computers do not function the same.

I will agree that Honda made a mistake. But there is a simple fix going forward. The simplest fix and probably the more practical fix for Honda would be go back to a traditional non self correcting clock, instead of a self correcting model. No automatic time correction capability, no complaints that it didn't correct itself properly every 19.7 years. Of course there will always be someone who complains because the thing gains or looses time slightly over a period of weeks, months or years.

As for the clock working on you old vehicle, what time does it show now? Seems that Honda's Clock Repair Bulletin does solve the clock issue. Now, the owners have to keep track of Daylight Savings Time and adjust it themselves.
 

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I noticed today that my clock/radio was no longer showing a very old date and time. So, I decided to try and set the correct date and time. I went into the Clock adjustment section and set all of the features to Auto. After exiting the Setup of the clock I noticed it had the correct Date but not the correct time. I tried to go back into Setup mode but the MORE button is now 'greyed out'. I can't get to the section to Manually adjust the Date/Time now.
How does one get the MORE button to be active again?
 

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I noticed today that my clock/radio was no longer showing a very old date and time. So, I decided to try and set the correct date and time. I went into the Clock adjustment section and set all of the features to Auto. After exiting the Setup of the clock I noticed it had the correct Date but not the correct time. I tried to go back into Setup mode but the MORE button is now 'greyed out'. I can't get to the section to Manually adjust the Date/Time now.
How does one get the MORE button to be active again?
From the Honda Service Bulletin:

The automatic DST function will not work properly causing the incorrect time at the perceived DST date. We recommend that after August 17, 2022, the customer sets the “Auto Daylight Saving” function to “OFF” and adjust the DST manually.
 

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Time came back on 2007 RTL Ridgeline Navigation last month. It was hour off manually reset.
Some years ago my 2000 Acura 3.2 TL had issue like that. Clock time automatically started running again did reset.
 

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That's weird. The day of the week for January 1 doesn't match either 2002 (Tuesday) or 2022 (Saturday), either.

What is it showing as the date today?

What happens if you manually set the time and date?
When you turn the key to start the engine, immediately select "OK" THEN you can go into settings and correct the clock, but NOT the calendar. After 8 months, the P<O>S Honda Engineers didn't do what they professed to do to correct the GPS Satellite settings. Today, they told me in three MORE weeks, we can set the calendar manually
 

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If you read the Information from Honda in previous posts you would know that Honda has already said that the time issue will correct, but that the date issue will not be corrected.

"After January 1, 2022, when the system internal calendar is reset to May 19, 2002, the date will always be incorrect and stay incorrect. There is no solution to correct it."
 

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I noticed today that my clock/radio was no longer showing a very old date and time. So, I decided to try and set the correct date and time. I went into the Clock adjustment section and set all of the features to Auto. After exiting the Setup of the clock I noticed it had the correct Date but not the correct time. I tried to go back into Setup mode but the MORE button is now 'greyed out'. I can't get to the section to Manually adjust the Date/Time now.
How does one get the MORE button to be active again?
Have you got your MORE button back yet?
 

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That's a bit of apples and oranges though. No one expects a cell phone to last 10 years - you're meant to be able to easily replace a cell phone or computer within a few years as technology changes. IE, you go to the mobile store, buy a new phone, they port your number and you're out the door in 15 minutes. Wireless networks update communication technology in order to adopt faster and more efficient communication systems which require newer hardware to support their use. No one expects a cell phone to last 15 years and the cost reflects that.

The navigation system is built into the Ridgeline and it is difficult/expensive to replace. The clock is the most basic function of the system. When the nav system is not in use, you see the clock. Frankly, most users would never replace that and in most cases, you expect that it will be used for the life of the vehicle, which could easily extend beyond 10 to 15 years.

Plus, has the date and time encoding from GPS changed over the last few years? It's not like there's a new scheme in how dates and time are conveyed which necessitate newer hardware, as is the case with cell phones.

This is clearly a Honda screw up and not a problem with expectations. I don't think it's too much to ask for the clock to work on a 10 year old car.
Honda refused fix their GPS. We can adjust the clock manually where its supposed to be automatic. The incorrect calendar will not be fixed. Honda essentially just said....Get Over It
 

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Modern technology is amazing, but the affected vehicles are using technology developed before 2005.
People tend to forget that when this technology was developed this is what more than 90% of people were watching TV on...

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....we were still recording shows on VCR's or on TIVo's. DVD's were the format for rental and Blu Ray didn't exist.
VCR's are dead and gone. TIVo was replaced by recording options by Cable company and when was the last time you saw a DVD or Blu Ray store that rented either, except for Porn Shop rentals?
 

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People tend to forget that when this technology was developed this is what more than 90% of people were watching TV on...

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....we were still recording shows on VCR's or on TIVo's. DVD's were the format for rental and Blu Ray didn't exist.
VCR's are dead and gone. TIVo was replaced by recording options by Cable company and when was the last time you saw a DVD or Blu Ray store that rented either, except for Porn Shop rentals?
I still use two TiVo boxes. Both have lifetime subscriptions and cable cards from Comcast. They say they are going to stop supporting them, but that’s probably when I will stop supporting Comcast.
 
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