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Tire/wheel lift when rotating tires - (for the old guys)

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Looking for a device that can help lift my mounted tires when rotating for easy remount.

I just did my first tire rotation and determined by the time I got to the 4th tire - I was struggling. At 68 I’m guessing this is only going to become more of a challenge. I love doing my own maintenance as much as possible and plan to join the 265 tire club as soon as these Firestones wear out.

That said - I’m wondering if anyone can recommend a tire/wheel lift that helps position the mounted tire correctly to easily remount. I’ve seen a few on Amazon, but they range from $125 - $500. Is anyone using a tire lift that you’d recommend? I know I can always go to Discount tire - and that is likely where I’ll buy my 265s when the time comes - but it’s still fun to do some of my own work. I torque just right and don’t over tighten. Besides - I just bought a Dewalt battery powered impact wrench. Gotta justify that purchase! Thanks for any advice or recommendations.
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"" How can you mess up rotating tires ""

Answer: Cross threaded bolts
Or "cocking" the tire on the hub and tightening it up harder to make up for it.
That was a great ride home.
Never again.
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I understand entirely the desire to do your own maintenance and that means ALL MAINTENANCE, not just the convenient stuff.

Get the right tools for the job.
I have a very large X lug wrench that could stop the earth's rotation. That's what I use to remove the lug nuts.
I have an old Sears floor jack. It's neither light nor low so it picks up the truck fine.
I use jack stands to hold the truck in position.
I position the tires so they are going to land on the top stud and I use a LARGE tire iron to lever the tire up and on to the stud. The rest of the studs I tighten by hand.
I use an old Sears torque wrench to tighten the lugs to spec when the truck is back down.

It's work but doable. Just take your time.

And have a beer between each tire.
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Agree with using floor..
i use legs , thighs, knee area and arms while sitting on floor..or seat if higher..
the trick as mentioned is to first align ne top wheel hole and stud as mentioned..one shot to hit..
that dewalt rocks..
My nearest Discount Tire is 57 miles away.

I just rotate when I swap the three-season LE2 tires for winter tires.
How can you mess up rotating tires, with the possible exception of not getting the lug nuts torqued properly? But even that is easy enough to confirm after the heavy stuff has been done?
Bill
Breaking off wheel studs, scratching wheels, misplacing valve caps, etc.
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Looking for a device that can help lift my mounted tires when rotating for easy remount.

I just did my first tire rotation and determined by the time I got to the 4th tire - I was struggling. At 68 I’m guessing this is only going to become more of a challenge. I love doing my own maintenance as much as possible and plan to join the 265 tire club as soon as these Firestones wear out.

That said - I’m wondering if anyone can recommend a tire/wheel lift that helps position the mounted tire correctly to easily remount. I’ve seen a few on Amazon, but they range from $125 - $500. Is anyone using a tire lift that you’d recommend? I know I can always go to Discount tire - and that is likely where I’ll buy my 265s when the time comes - but it’s still fun to do some of my own work. I torque just right and don’t over tighten. Besides - I just bought a Dewalt battery powered impact wrench. Gotta justify that purchase! Thanks for any advice or recommendations.
Good for you - doing your own wrenching. I'm rapidly approaching my next milestone, 80, and I still do the majority of wrenching on our 3 vehicles. Even so, tire rotation is one task that I let the tire shop do. The key is finding the right shop and getting to know the key personnel who will do everything to your satisfaction. I always appeal to their "expertise" while letting them know, in a non-confrontational manner, that I know how it's supposed to be done. I provide them with a printed sheet showing the rotation map, torque specs, and air pressure. I also request no air guns and the proper use of a "real" torque wrench, not the torque sticks that so many misuse. This continues to work quite well for me and I'm usually invited to watch the process. Just some thoughts should you decide to turn this maintenance task over to someone else - it's possible, with some coaxing on your part, to get exactly what you need - and it will be a free service. Good luck.
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We have used DT multiple times, but they have messed up a couple of times.
I just left Discount Tire after getting our tires rotated and I will apologize ahead of time where they provided the usual exemplary service where I have absolutely no complaints, only compliments!
Again, I am sorry! 😈
Bill
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I just left Discount Tire after getting our tires rotated and I will apologize ahead of time where they provided the usual exemplary service where I have absolutely no complaints, only compliments!
Again, I am sorry! 😈
Bill
My dirty look face was a joke. Hopefully, none of your tires will fall off due to loose lug nuts (just kidding). However, I actually was on corner 1 of an autocross where a tire company put on the wrong lug nuts for some new wheels this guy had bought for his car and as he turned in my direction with another corner worker next to me, all four wheels came off simultaneously and he was headed for use griding on the rotors on the ground. I grabbed the woman corner worker and we got out of the way because it looked like the car might not stop in time for us to be safe. This happened about 6 years ago at South Georgia Motorsports Park parking lot and was captured on video I believe.
And it was a Discount Tire store that installed the wheels and tires?
Bill
I just left Discount Tire after getting our tires rotated and I will apologize ahead of time where they provided the usual exemplary service where I have absolutely no complaints, only compliments!
But how do you know they provided "exemplary service"?
  • A cross-threaded / stripped lug nut wouldn't be discovered until the next time the wheels are removed.
  • PSI adjusted on hot tires wouldn't be noticed unless you later checked the pressure on cold tires.
  • You wouldn't know if they followed the proper rotation pattern unless you marked the tires are watched the entire time.
  • Any scratches/gouges/damage to the inside of the wheels wouldn't be noticed until the next time they are removed.

All of these things happen thousands of times every day when consumers bring their vehicles in for service.
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Just an idea, but I'm thinking two of these might work. I've used them for many other lifting tasks and they work well. I would place them under the tire but a little to the front and back so that as you inflate them (both at the same time or taking turns pumping each a little at a time) the tire gets lifted in between the shims. They'll easily lift the weight and once you raise the tire up the inch or so needed, you might need to adjust a small amount but that shouldn't be too hard to do.
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There is a oh so much simpler way, just take your Ridgeline to your local Discount Tire store and they will rotate those tires for free.

Bill
I just did that this morning ;)

They do try to upsell you on a warranty and some kind of wiper upgrade but like the old slogan goes..."I just said "NO"

I did watch them do it and they did do the correct pattern. Ive never had a issue with them stripping nuts. Discount Tire is awesome IMO...Its a great customer geared model that does not chrage you for rotations even if you have never used them before.
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Discount Tire is awesome IMO...Its a great customer geared model that does not chrage you for rotations even if you have never used them before.
I think Discount Tire is better than most tire shops, maybe even the best, but that is a low bar.
They scratched the hell out the barrel of my wheels when taking old wheel weights off.
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Back when I was driving 60K a year, I had my tires rotated for free once a month. I still buy my tires from this dealer after driving 2 million miles, plus. All rotations are free and I NEVER had an issue with any of their rotations and balancing (which is also free for the life of the tire). At age 79, I have too many other "honey dos" to mess with balancing tires when Les Schwab does such a good job.
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I think Discount Tire is better than most tire shops, maybe even the best, but that is a low bar.
They scratched the hell out the barrel of my wheels when taking old wheel weights off.
I do apologize for the issue with your wheels being scratched during service. I would like to know more about this if possible, and see what I can do to assist with this issue. DM headed your way.
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Just an idea, but I'm thinking two of these might work. I've used them for many other lifting tasks and they work well. I would place them under the tire but a little to the front and back so that as you inflate them (both at the same time or taking turns pumping each a little at a time) the tire gets lifted in between the shims. They'll easily lift the weight and once you raise the tire up the inch or so needed, you might need to adjust a small amount but that shouldn't be too hard to do.
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And you can also use those to break into your vehicle!
The dealership rotates my tires every time I go in for service. No surprise there. What is a surprise is I have 58K miles on the OEM Firestones on my soon to be 3 year old truck. And I still have 5-6 mm's left on the tread...they must be rotating them efficiently! 👍
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Not sure if it has been said yet but I use the spare tire and only lift one corner of the truck at a time. That means putting the wheels on and taking them off 5 times. If you had a full size spare that you are circulating in then that would only be 4 times. In my case, my driveway isn't level so raising up more than one corner is risky. I use a good quality floor jack to lift each corner and it makes the lifting and lowering easy and safe. For the lugnuts I use a heavy duty cordless impact driver (Dewalt) that makes taking the lugs off super easy. For tightening I use the same driver but put it on a lower setting just to cinch up the lugs tight enough to lower the wheel. I then use a torque wrench to tighten the lugs to spec. As far a lifting the wheel onto the hub, I try to keep the tire just barely off the ground but lifting the wheel up onto the hub does take some strength. . .That's what I do.
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I've been going to @Discount Tire for over 25 years and have been very pleased with them. They've always given me a great price and exceptional service. I don't even consider anyone else any more.

Back in 2014, I took my brand new Civic to Discount Tire to have my tires siped. I also had an (almost new) set of studded tires from my daughter's old car, that were the same size, and I wanted to looked for a set of winter wheels while I was there.

I picked out a style of wheel that was around $100 each, and they were going to mount the studded tires on them, too.

After siping the tires, the sales guy came over and informed me that the tech was new, and he failed to protect the wheels during the siping process. There was a marred, discoloration ring around each wheel surface.

He offered to mount my factory tires on my new winter wheels, send me on my way, and send my factory wheels off to be repaired. He said he would give me a discount on the new wheels for my trouble.

A few days later, I went to pick up the repaired factory wheels, which looked awesome. They mounted the original tires on them, the studded tires on my new winter wheels, and did not charge me at all. That bill was over $500. I was just expecting a sizable discount.

Talk about making it right.

There are few places I truly have loyalty to, but Discount Tire is one of them.
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Same here, I had to request the proper tire rotation (arrows to the correct location) and usually they didn't mess with tire pressure but last trip they reset my tires down to 35 (warm) so that when cool the pressure was too low. I also re-torque the lug nuts (I have even stopped in the parking lot at the dealership before I left to check the lug nuts and also the oil level). I also mark my oil filter with a sharpie so that I know it was actually changed (since Honda recommends/allows oil filters to be changed every other oil change) and I pay for and WANT the oil filter changed every time I double check it. So far they have changed it each time. Am I a little OCD about maintenance? Perhaps but in my decades of car maintenance I have avoided any maintenance related failures and see no need to change my regimen now.
I am the exact same way.
“Trust but verify” saint Ronald said once.
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