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Plan to tow boat with weight in the 3500-4000 pound range. Do I need trailer brakes? Will be in flat terrain in Florida.
 

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To be legal in Florida, yes. http://drivinglaws.aaa.com/laws/trailer-brakes/

Practically speaking, if you're going to be doing more than moving it around a flat yard, towing a brakeless 4,000 pound trailer with a vehicle that only weighs a little more than that is a recipe for disaster - simple physics. You know how it is - as soon as you hook up a trailer, every driver around you starts doing stupid things. You need brakes.

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I was thinking that way as well. Searched for a post with a how to trailer brake controller install and can not locate one. Help please.

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I also have questions about adding a trailer brake controller. I realize that it is best to have the brakes, even tho my 5x10 utility trailer does not. In the event I want to add a trailer with brakes, I know a brake controller is needed to actuate the trailer brakes.

I have a 2014 Sport that I recently picked up used. It has the receiver and the RV connector plug under the rear bumper already, and I assume it is factory installed. I understand the brake controller is supposedly pre-wired under the left side panel above the e brake, marked with blue tape. Is this connector already wired into that 7 pin connector at the receiver? Are trailer brakes controlled thru that 7 pin connector as well?

I was looking on eBay for controllers that state they are for the Ridgeline, with factory tow package......but when I get to the compatibility chart....it states it isn't compatible for my 2014 Ridgeline. I think that is an error, but I don't know with that conflicting info.

tekonsha p3 is what I am considering, IF in fact it will work....
 

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I'd be very surprised if the trailer that the boat comes on does NOT have trailer brakes already.
And if you don't already know... not all brakes require a controller. Two types of brakes typically found on trailers are electric brakes (to which a controller applies, but may not be required), and surge brakes that do NOT require a controller.
Surge brakes are not uncommon on boat trailers, and they are activated by the weight of the trailer pushing against the tow vehicle/hitch. They work just fine in my experience, presuming they (& the trailer) are designed for the weight being towed. Check out the trailer in question to see if it doesn't already have surge brakes.

But to your original question: YES, absolutely! Especially with a boat (can amplify accident consequences by coming off the trailer).
 

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So what type of brake controller is preferred, proportional or solid state, considering the 5k lbs towing limit?
 

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I have a 2014 Sport that I recently picked up used. It has the receiver and the RV connector plug under the rear bumper already, and I assume it is factory installed.
Unless the previous owner installed the hitch wiring harness, you do not have the complete setup for towing. You have the factory installed prewire and the hitch. The RT and Sport come with a hitch and the prewire, but not the full wiring harness that the RTS/RTL/SE have.

If you have a trailer wiring connector, you can find out pretty quickly.
 

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The tekonsha brake controllers are some of the best on the market and I recommend them for sure.

Correct, surge brakes don't require a controller. Wiring my brake controller wasn't too bad, but finding that one hidden wire/harness under the dash was a little bit of a pain, LOL.

No way in hell I'd consider towing anything 3k or more w/o trailer brakes.
 

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Unless the previous owner installed the hitch wiring harness, you do not have the complete setup for towing. You have the factory installed prewire and the hitch. The RT and Sport come with a hitch and the prewire, but not the full wiring harness that the RTS/RTL/SE have.

If you have a trailer wiring connector, you can find out pretty quickly.
http://www.amazon.com/Curt-Manufact...0616853&sr=8-1&keywords=trailer+wiring+tester
Ok, got it, checked it and it all works as it should. So that means the wiring should be all ok. Now, I am going to get a brake controller and just might get a solid state one, not sure.

But, I was looking at trailers at a local trailer yard, and stated my truck had a 5k lb towing limit but I was still interested in a dual axle/brake set up on a 7x14 V-nose trailer (which has a 7k GVWR). Then he said I could not legally tow one even tho the load might not be 7k, it had the potential to be and would be illegal. I said I think that is BS, because I have the equipment (a penis) to be a rapist, but I'm not and I have the equipment to be a murder, but I'm not. I'm going to,have to call and check on this....because he said some have had their trailer confiscated because it was rated higher than the towing vehicle. He was trying to sell me a 7x12 single 3500lb axle with brakes instead.

Any one have input on this?
 

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I don't think exceeding GVWR and GCWR are an offense until you actually do it. as for brake controls the prodigy P3 gets good reviews. i had a cheap controller and ditched for a P3. i tow 4400# travel trailer.
 

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Interesting location for the brake controller. Did you relocate the OBDII port (by your right knee... under that brake controller)?
 

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[...] I was still interested in a dual axle/brake set up on a 7x14 V-nose trailer (which has a 7k GVWR). Then he said I could not legally tow one even tho the load might not be 7k
That would be where he should be able to give you a direct citation of the law.
, it had the potential to be and would be illegal. I said I think that is BS, because I have the equipment (a penis) to be a rapist, but I'm not and I have the equipment to be a murder, but I'm not.
The regulation either exists or it doesn't. Your logic might be internally consistent, but it's based on supposition and metaphors may not translate well into real life regulations. Those would have been written using information that you might not have.
I'm going to,have to call and check on this....because he said some have had their trailer confiscated because it was rated higher than the towing vehicle.
Yes. Either that, or check your local statutes on line. Most governments have every detail that you need in writing, and can be found very quickly. Some sites also have quick reference pages that are easier to read.
He was trying to sell me a 7x12 single 3500lb axle with brakes instead.
Any one have input on this?
He was trying to sell you something, all right. Good luck.
 
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