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Yesterday while backing out of my parking space at work, my transmission sounded like a manual with straight cut reverse gears. I discovered that it makes the same noise when reviving the engine in park or neutral, although not as loud. The symptoms suggest a failing pump, but it doesn't do it in drive.

A couple of times while passing over the last few weeks, I noticed the transmission would downshift then downshift again after a 2-3 second delay, which is unusual.

I have a feeling I'm next on the list to get a new transmission.

 

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Sorry Zroger73, Yikes, what's up with all these 6 speed threads lately? It sounds like a power steering pump from the old days or a cat roaring in there. When is it going in and curious if this will be a one way trip to the dealer if it needs a new transmission. I also noticed your engine grunting a bit, shades of the knock that I complain about on mine maybe it's not that much of a problem then. I know your RDX was a "bad example" and now this with the RL. Did you get rid of the Accord for quality/mechanical reasons?
 

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Sorry mate, your engine sounds "EXACTLY " like my 18 which had a new transmission. I'll never forget the "whine" ......the noise gradually got louder especially in "park" and when you revved it up, constant "whine"

My truck was out of order for three weeks ( put in a rental truck ) I had 11,000 km's on my 18.

You know the drill, get Honda involved when confirmed transmission replacement, get them to kick in a few grand along with dealer help and move into a new 2020.
My saw my used 18 selling with disclosure article.....
 

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Don't like reading about these major issues. I've been pretty fortunate, as I've only had the loud popping drivers window, and the wind noise issue to deal with. Preparing myself without stressing out....

Hope things work out for you the best they can. I appreciate your knowledge that you bring to the forums.
 

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Sorry Zroger73, Yikes, what's up with all these 6 speed threads lately? It sounds like a power steering pump from the old days or a cat roaring in there. When is it going in and curious if this will be a one way trip to the dealer if it needs a new transmission. I also noticed your engine grunting a bit, shades of the knock that I complain about on mine maybe it's not that much of a problem then. I know your RDX was a "bad example" and now this with the RL. Did you get rid of the Accord for quality/mechanical reasons?
For a moment, I actually thought it was the power steering pump then I realized there isn't one. :)

I have no plans to take the vehicle in at this time. I really dislike warranty work, so I'll probably keep driving it until it no longer moves under its own power at which point I'll have it towed to the dealer.

The "grunting" you heard is the brakes. Both my 2019, previous 2017, and various other makes and models I've owned made that same noise as the pads slip/stick on the calipers. It also has brake judder (needs rotors cut or replaced), a creaking/popping rear window, a water leak above the rear window, the driver's door rattles with bass just like my 2017, and the forward collision alert goes off multiple times per day on undivided roads.

I traded the Accord primarily because I was trying to consolidate it and a truck (Ridgeline) into an SUV (RDX), but the Accord did have a fuel odor, hood vibration, rear deck rattle, warped defroster vent, rough 1-2 shifts, and the CMBS/ACC would occasionally stop working until the vehicle was restarted (not convenient on the highway).

I wasn't ready to trade, I don't like idle stop, and I'm not the biggest fan of the ZF 9HP transmission, so I'm reluctant to trade for a 2020 Ridgeline. It would cost me about $10K to trade my 2019 for a 2020 and that's just too much. Even if I could use my "powers" and connections to get that down to $7K, that's still too much. I might do it for $5K, but I don't see that happening.
 

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I don't know a heck of a lot about cars and trucks, just experience along the way you'd call it, they change so often from my 1969 Ford escort that I worked on.

Just to let you know there was a time when my dealer wanted me to stop driving my whinny 18 ridgeline truck in case it caused additional damaged, that maybe would not be covered under warranty if kept driving.
Just sayin....

Good Luck, as I got into my 19 from my 18 for 3k Can plus tax with Honda Canada help
 

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I don't know a heck of a lot about cars and trucks, just experience along the way you'd call it, they change so often from my 1969 Ford escort that I worked on.

Just to let you know there was a time when my dealer wanted me to stop driving my whinny 18 ridgeline truck in case it caused additional damaged, that maybe would not be covered under warranty if kept driving.
Just sayin....

Good Luck, as I got into my 19 from my 18 for 3k Can plus tax with Honda Canada help
I've already emailed my service contact with the video, description of the issue, and a half-dozen codes that are stored (none are transmission-related and I suspect are left from when the fuel pump recall was performed last year and the tech failed to turn the vehicle off and disconnect the battery before disconnecting the fuel pump). I'm curious what his preliminary diagnosis is. I'm preparing myself for a transmission replacement.

About a year and a half ago, a 2018 Accord owner had a similar transmission whine (10AT - totally different transmission, though). The transmission was replaced due to a defective valve body causing oil starvation in the pump, but it, too, was faulty (overheating). Honda ended up buying the car back. What a hassle these automobiles can be. :)
 

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I do hope that my presumption is wrong, but just hearing that whine is not something you kinda forget.

I have an 09 911 C2S and when I read about PDK and bore scoring issues running 15-30k for repairs I browse something else.......automobile hassles indeed ( I blame the internet )
 

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Wasn't referring to the brakes but the knock sound is so imprinted in my brain now. Wow so 3 or 4 Hondas/Acuras in the last few years and seems like you are "settling" with each of them. I was reading the Pilot forum which tends not be a fanboy forum about the injectors and I really feel for those folks. It's real and honest and those folks won't be back to Honda. The question is what's the next best alternative to the RL? I'm thinking the Colorado and I like that you can extend the warranty to 5 years bumper to bumper. That may be cheaper than leasing every 3 years. With the exception of the 4 Runner/Tundra/Highlander I think going 10 years is impossible with anyone else right now. By the end of this year, I'll be done writing these crazy checks every 6 months for college and I'll feel like I can buy a Mercedes?.
 

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Wasn't referring to the brakes but the knock sound is so imprinted in my brain now. Wow so 3 or 4 Hondas/Acuras in the last few years and seems like you are "settling" with each of them. I was reading the Pilot forum which tends not be a fanboy forum about the injectors and I really feel for those folks. It's real and honest and those folks won't be back to Honda. The question is what's the next best alternative to the RL, I'm thinking the Colorado and I like that you can extend the warranty to 5 years bumper to bumper. That may be cheaper than leasing every 3 years. With the exception of the 4 Runner/Tundra/Highlander I think going 10 years is impossible with anyone else right now.
Oh, okay. I'm not sure about the "knock" you're referring to, then. Can you point to a specific time in the video that might help?

I have no idea what I'd replace the Ridgeline with - there's not another pickup that I'd consider and the trunk and tailgate are very important to me. If I didn't need a truck on occasion, I may have a Mazda CX-5 or CX-9. I enjoy the Telluride and highly recommend it, but I'm not quite ready to buy one with my own money.

I can't get rid of the Ridgeline and just keep the Miata, because it's simply too small to be a primary vehicle.

I had planned to keep my 2019 until the end of the 3/36 warranty by which time the Cybertruck and Santa Cruz should be available for purchase.

Long-term reliability isn't important to me. I'm most concerned with initial and short-term reliability along with resale value. Honda is losing ground in all three areas, but there's simply no direct competitor or reasonable alternative to the Ridgeline at the moment.
 

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I checked the fluid level and condition. I've never towed. At 14K miles, the fluid is not cherry red like new fluid, but it doesn't look "dirty" or "burnt". The level is correct, but it does have a distinct metallic odor.
 

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I was really paying attention to "noises" in our '19 Ridgeline today and one thing I picked up on is a subtle whine at the beginning of each up shift, I am assuming that this is normal? Also, with the back seat in the raised position, on certain road surfaces we get a high frequency buzzing which disappears when the seat is lowered.

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The dealer thinks it's engine-related even though the pitch of the whine is clearly related to the vehicle speed when in reverse. I'll drop it off and pick up a loaner this week and let them monkey with it. I don't have much confidence in their preliminary diagnosis.

These newest generations of "technicians" don't have a clue how things actually work and can't think outside the box - if something isn't precisely described as a symptom in the service information, they're at a total loss. :)

I was really paying attention to "noises" in our '19 Ridgeline today and one thing I picked up on is a subtle whine at the beginning of each up shift, I am assuming that this is normal?
I never noticed anything like that in either my '17 or '19.
 

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I hope I'm wrong Zroger, but my guess is no code equals no fix. I suppose if you are curious you could dump the fluid and see if there are any abnormal particles. This way you have evidence. I'm curious why it doesn't happen in drive sure sounds like something is being starved of fluid.
 

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Whatever it is is getting louder/worse. Today, I can hear it at idle without having to rev the engine. I decided to go ahead and drop it off because I have a feeling something is about to fail. The only time I've ever been stranded on the side of road was in a worn-out '84 Fiero and I'd rather not repeat the event.
 

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About a year and a half ago, a 2018 Accord owner had a similar transmission whine (10AT - totally different transmission, though). The transmission was replaced due to a defective valve body causing oil starvation in the pump, but it, too, was faulty (overheating). Honda ended up buying the car back. What a hassle these automobiles can be. :)
A member over the the Piloteers forum had his transmission replaced and it was due to an issue that was not know. This was on the 6AT and they initially swapped the valve body assembly out, but it did not fix the issue. The issue was a rough/bang shift from 2 to 3 and 3 to 4 gears, not similar to what you expressed. However, the final prognosis is still unknown.

It sucks to be one of the very few with this issue and I am sure they will get it all sorted out. Do you believe you will have access to what the cause was?
 

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A member over the the Piloteers forum had his transmission replaced and it was due to an issue that was not know. This was on the 6AT and they initially swapped the valve body assembly out, but it did not fix the issue. The issue was a rough/bang shift from 2 to 3 and 3 to 4 gears, not similar to what you expressed. However, the final prognosis is still unknown.

It sucks to be one of the very few with this issue and I am sure they will get it all sorted out. Do you believe you will have access to what the cause was?
Probably not - I have PR contacts at Honda and Honda dealers, but I don't have any engineering contacts.
 

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Whatever it is is getting louder/worse. Today, I can hear it at idle without having to rev the engine. I decided to go ahead and drop it off because I have a feeling something is about to fail. The only time I've ever been stranded on the side of road was in a worn-out '84 Fiero and I'd rather not repeat the event.
HAH, the only time i'd ever been stranded was in my 87 Fiero. I'm sure I just jinx'd myself.
 

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Whatever it is is getting louder/worse. Today, I can hear it at idle without having to rev the engine. I decided to go ahead and drop it off because I have a feeling something is about to fail. The only time I've ever been stranded on the side of road was in a worn-out '84 Fiero and I'd rather not repeat the event.
Probably your best option going forward. Identical symptoms that I experienced
 
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