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Although I'm now retired after 15 years as a firefighter-medic and 25 years in environmental health it's hard to break old habits so bare with me.

It's that time of year again to get your flu shot. Literally pain-free and cost-free for those with insurance or Medicare. I got both the new shingle vaccination and flu vaccination yesterday at my local Safeway pharmacy. Also, I got a $10 Safeway coupon which could not be used for the bottle of bourbon that I intended to get with the coupon.

A word about the shingles vaccination. A new vaccine, called Shingrix, is now available that’s more effective in preventing shingles than the old Zostavax. My memory is that this new vaccination is 90% effective and the old vaccination was 50% effective so even if you have had the old Zostavax, get the new Shingrix. The new recommendation is that everyone age 50 and older with a healthy immune system receive this vaccine, whether you’ve had shingles before or not. Unlike the older vaccine, this new stuff is inactivated. That means it does not contain a live virus. My Medicare and Part B covered 100% of the cost of both vaccinations which would have been close to $300 if not covered by insurance. The new shingles vaccination does require a followup booster within two to six months after the initial shot. Even a mild case of shingles is potentially horrible with bad residual effects. Get your vaccinations!
 

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Man that Bourbon would have inoculated you for anything else ;)

Just accepted an appointment to get the Flu Vaccine at work 10/10, and I'll do it unless I get an opportunity to do it sooner.
 

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I still got the bourbon, I just couldn't use the coupon for anything other than food.
Lucky you with 'one-stop shopping' … no real liquor allowed in grocery stores here (just beer and wine in TX).

And thanks for the vaccination 'PSA' (y)
 

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While in the ER a few weeks ago following my motorcycle wreck, I was asked if I was up to date on my tetanus shot. Hesitantly, I answered that I'd never had one. The nurse said not to worry and that I'd be up to date before I left! :(

For some reason, I always though that a tetanus shot was administrated with a large needle in one's behind. I was pleasantly surprised that it was administered in my arm using a short, thin needle that was even less painless than a flu shot.
 

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For some reason, I always thought that a tetanus shot was administrated with a large needle in one's behind. I was pleasantly surprised that it was administered in my arm using a short, thin needle that was even less painless than a flu shot.
The fear of the needle is almost always worse than the actual needle. One possible exception is the post-exposure rabies immune globulin shot. The actual rabies series is the small thin needle too. You probably got the Tdap vaccine which protects you from tetanus, diphtheria, and whooping cough.
 

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Just got my second shingles shot.
I'd STRONGLY advise everyone to look into getting this if you ever had chickenpox. If the virus re-activates you'll get shingles and it's a very painful condition.
Wife and I will be getting the flu shot next week.
 

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Got the Flu Shot at Walgreens Pharmacy few days ago.
The pharmacist was ready to stick me the day before when she saw me.
I was just there to pick up medicine refill I told her I would be next day had elderly mother & sister waiting in car.
My arm is just a little bit sore I got the shingles vaccine last year.
I took the first shot then they said later the shot was not strong enough or something..
Had to wait several months then they called me back as I was on waiting list for the new shot.
I will take my 91yr old mother to her eye and doctor's appointments Monday.
She can get the Flu Shot at her Kaiser Health Care when we go. Monday for doctors appointments.
Seems like they are earlier the last few years with the vaccine thought it use to be about October getting it.
 

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I meant to get my flu shot a few weeks ago, but I came down with a cold. I'm not sure if I'll get one or not - I'm at low risk for contracting the virus or complications. I've certainly been sick before, but I don't know that I've ever actually had influenza in over four decades so far. I suspect it's been acute bronchitis, sinusitis, and/or upper respiratory infections.
 

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Free huh, how are those taxes going for ya?
based on $100 000 income in Ontario, $15k to federal, $8k to provincial $6.6k to CPP + EI.
so...net income of ~$70k. Obviously the $30k in taxes is not just health care. Imagine that a country is now stronger because it's citizens are healthy.

Now the average eligible taxed Canadian "pays" less than $5k in taxes that would go to health care.
Included with that "tax":
-child birth
-doctors appointments
-emergency room visits
-surgeries
-vaccinations
-MRI / CT scans
-blood tests
-radiology heart test
-xrays
-pretty much any medical test to diagnose your ailment
-vision and hearing tests (limited)
-basically anything but elective surgeries and dental are covered.

How much again does anything cost in the USA without an insurance program?
$10k for child birth? $2500 to mend a broken arm? $55k for a heart attack???

So yeah, my taxes are doing just fine.
 

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Flu shot was free to me. However the shingles shots cost me a total of $300 out of pocket. Hated paying but well worth the peace of mind.
 

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I love Canada.
Flu shot, tetanus, shingles, HPV, Twinrex...all free.
Not everything is free up here. Are you sure it was not covered by your employers health benefits?
I checked my records & I paid $291.16 CAD for the 2 doses of Shingrix.
It was < $200 for the Zostavax back in 2013
I'm in Ontario. Every year, more and more things are getting delisted for being covered.
e.g. Recent Colonoscopy was covered, the PegLyte prep was not.
I did get my flu shot for free though.

I'm not sure if I'll get one or not - I'm at low risk for contracting the virus or complications.
You can monitor the statistics ...

The shot is not only for your health but also to protect people you are in contact with. Do you deal with people at risk?
 

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based on $100 000 income in Ontario, $15k to federal, $8k to provincial $6.6k to CPP + EI.
so...net income of ~$70k. Obviously the $30k in taxes is not just health care. Imagine that a country is now stronger because it's citizens are healthy.

Now the average eligible taxed Canadian "pays" less than $5k in taxes that would go to health care.
Included with that "tax":
-child birth
-doctors appointments
-emergency room visits
-surgeries
-vaccinations
-MRI / CT scans
-blood tests
-radiology heart test
-xrays
-pretty much any medical test to diagnose your ailment
-vision and hearing tests (limited)
-basically anything but elective surgeries and dental are covered.

How much again does anything cost in the USA without an insurance program?
$10k for child birth? $2500 to mend a broken arm? $55k for a heart attack???

So yeah, my taxes are doing just fine.
Unfortunately, for a certain subset of the population in my beloved country, you basically could have just typed SOCIALISM about 150 times. Because that’s all they see when a reasonable explanation is given. But we have the Freedom, so we got that going for us.
 

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My "free" Medicare & Supplemental & Part D cost me about $8400 a year last time I checked. Although, full disclosure, I think my former employer pays about $3600 of that. I don't track it because everything is taken out of my pension and Social Security before it gets into my hot little hands.
 

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based on $100 000 income in Ontario, $15k to federal, $8k to provincial $6.6k to CPP + EI.
so...net income of ~$70k. Obviously the $30k in taxes is not just health care. Imagine that a country is now stronger because it's citizens are healthy.

Now the average eligible taxed Canadian "pays" less than $5k in taxes that would go to health care.
Included with that "tax":
-child birth
-doctors appointments
-emergency room visits
-surgeries
-vaccinations
-MRI / CT scans
-blood tests
-radiology heart test
-xrays
-pretty much any medical test to diagnose your ailment
-vision and hearing tests (limited)
-basically anything but elective surgeries and dental are covered.

How much again does anything cost in the USA without an insurance program?
$10k for child birth? $2500 to mend a broken arm? $55k for a heart attack???

So yeah, my taxes are doing just fine.
So that coverage costs you $5000 now? It was free previously?

I wasn’t making a comparison between the costs of the coverage between American and Canadian systems, just that it was stated as being “free” for Canadians when there is actually significant cost for the program

I simply have issues with those who mis-state facts-NOTHING is free. You are afforded coverage by virtue of your payments into the appropriate programs.

And yes the American system is far from perfect, I’m lucky enough to have very good coverage for a nominal cost. My child’s birth was 100% covered, as will any other of the items on your list.
 

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So that coverage costs you $5000 now? It was free previously?
It is convoluted because their are also "payroll health taxes" that employers pay & surtaxes. Hard to peg a number for the individual. It was never free since it was always built into the tax system somehow. Then there are federal to provincial and provincial to local transfer payments to cover health care.
 
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