definately biased.................and unfortunately, definately accurate. the big three are realing and bush is trying to help bail them out by lowering standards that benefit the consumer and the environment.i only wish honda had included the cylinder displacement they use in the ODY in the rl also.Ruffles said:I'm sorry but that article is so painfully biased that it's really not worth comment. Consider the sources carefully before you believe everything you read.
I wouldn't say he is trying to destroy the world, but I can certainly say he isn't trying to improve the US stance on environmental protection. Many of the policies that Bush has either sponsored or supported have definitely not been pro-environment. And this one is a definite step in the wrong direction. The people who should be getting protection here are those commercial users who must use large vehicles to perform business not end user consumer vehicles which people buy just because with no concern to the impact these vehicles are having on the environment. I bought the Ridgeline partially because of the fact that it was ULEV2 rated, and if they make a Hybrid version I will trade this truck in without a question to move to the hybrid version.Ruffles said:I don't deny that the big 3 are having some problems but the article is very political and anti-Bush. It's one thing to discuss fuel efficiancy. It's another to say Bush is trying to destroy the world with his energy policy.
Actually if you check, the batteries are recyclable and do not get replaced every 7 years anyway. They are less of a problem than standard car batteries are. And in 10 years I will bet that you still see hybrid drive trains in cars, just not necessarily in gasoline vehicles. There is no real reason not to recapture this wasted power. And the only reason they are expensive now is because it is early in production, they do not have the volume yet to reduce the cost, also because the makers can charge a premium for them and people will buy them still.hkmail1 said:Not to bash hybrids or anything, but people should do a little research on how enviro friendly the battery packs of these hybrids are. What happens every seven years. Where do all these batteries go. I have read a few articles that don't think hybrids will be the solution in the next ten years. Partly because they are so expensive and partly because of all the batteries that will be sitting in land fills.
The original Civic couldn't pass safety requirements that are now required and probably couldn't pass emissions requirements. Both emission reduction requirements and safety requirements have increased the weight of the car and the efficiency by which the engine can run. Also consider that the original Accord was smaller than the current Civic. When you can spew all sorts of junk out your tailpipe you don't have to worry about driving the systems to clean that air up. And yes for the cost and complexity one would hope they could get to around 100mpg, but it isn't going to happen overnight, people who buy into hybrids now are funding the research which will improve the technology for tomorrow. Plus they are doing something to help the environment now. Also remember not all pollution problems are equal so the longterm impact on the environment must be considered not just the momentary impact caused by disposal of waste.hkmail1 said:Plus for that kinda of cost and complexity shouldn't the hybrids get 100mpg or something worthwhile. Didn't the original honda civic crx hf get like 49mpg without being a hybrid.