To quote Mr. McGuire, "I just want to say one word to you. Plastics."...Nah, I thought I was pretty clear, but let me make it more clear. The plastic that surrounds the ENTIRE rear window feels cheep (crap?) has a sort of "tap" / rattle sound when I tapped on it like you would when you knock on a door. It bothers me that a BRAND NEW on the lot truck, that by nearly every review is "one of if not the best, beating out Toyota, Chevy, Ford" would be like this.. My concern here was, if it acts this way now, how will it be in say 5, 10 years? The interior... Well, its more plastic feeling than I was expecting. Sure it can be plastic but done well. I was "surprised". The bed. Well, have you looked at the very cheep way Honda did the access panel (the RTL-E and above) where there is an AC outlet? Take a look at the plastic fasteners (at least on the Sport I looked at), the "heads" of the fasteners were distorted much like a screwdriver was taken to soft plastic. That bothered me. The "feel" of the bed liner didn't instill trust in me that it would look good "down the road".
Yep, nothing is perfect. SO, I came here with real concerns. If people here don't think the things I pointed out are something to consider, then I guess they are not as particular as I am. Yep, to be honest, they all (all cars) are pretty much NOT meant to last. That is by design. My Taco has plenty of life left in it, but I'm mostly tired of the rattles its developed, one in particular as I dove it off the lot. SO I'm sure a Taco, RL, (and certainly Chevy / Ford) won't be much better, but I'm trying to find out what will be the "lesser bad".
So... my "vague concerns"? Again, they are... how does the cheep feeling plastic on the RL, both interior and exterior, hold up? I KNOW a new Taco, (and surely a Ford / Chevy) will also have plenty of plastic.
Ummmmm, yes I sat in one, please go back and re-read.
Playing footie with the sales man? They didn't have what I really wanted to see, an RTL-E. So, I saw what a saw, sat in it, and was not impressed. I came here trying to find out it it was worth my time to go looking at an RTL-E or if would be just as "bad"?
I'm sorry if my "over personal emotions" come off as not practical. But, I think asking if the, in my opinion, cheep plastic that I specially pointed out, was a concern to actual owners was pretty practical. But.... of course coming here, to the "Ridgeline" forum I'm going to get plenty of "oh, its the best" kind of responses. I get it, you (and others) bought one. So you are less likely to admit a problem.
I thought I was pretty clear on what I was interested in finding out.
But nope. Look like Ridgelineownersclub is mostly about patting yourselves on the back? Right?
Agreed. I thought this WAS the place to get real answers from real owners? I thought coming here WAS part of the research I was supposed to be doing?
Thank you to everyone that did try to address my concerns. Based on those that really did care to take a moment and give me their impressions I am interested in seeing an RTL-E, what I was hoping to see at my first visit to a dealer. I will just have to track one down and see it for myself. For those that have told me... I should do more research before coming here... well, that is just genius! For those that have replied with... well you asked vague questions... I did? Is the crappy feeling plastic on the RL really crappy in the long run? Seemed like asking real owners over a dealer was the way to go... but, that maybe hurt some current owners feelings? I'm sorry. If anyone wants to know what is / was crappy about an '03 Taco PreRunner I'll tell you.
So thank you to those that did try to honestly describe their likes and dislikes with the RL. I think I've replied and thanked you. To the rest... Why are you even here on this forum? That is what a forum is for, for people to ask questions from others.
Really no hard feelings. I thought you were another troll, but I think you are just a guy who has been in an exceptionally long relationship with a nice truck. And for that reason your response to another new potential relationship is a bit more emotional than average. You two have probably spent at least half your life together. That's impressive. It is true, in that time for better or for worse plastics have taken a larger share of the marketplace. Just as Mr. McGuire forecasted.
Ps I'm a residential contractor. I beat the crap outta all my trucks. I look at my trucks in practical terms. As in how will each make my life easier. And they are all loaded with plastic these days, and it all seems to holding up just fine. Very durable stuff. And doesn't rust. I will say though you absolutely have to actually drive a ridgeline on pavement to really appreciate it. I like all my trucks for very different reasons. I liked my 87 tacoma for the trails. I liked my 93 Camry for delivering blue prints. I like my ridgeline for tools and comfort. Once you actually drive one these things the things you're worried about will completely fade into oblivion. Then other concerns will take their place. Anyway the ridgeline doesn't feel like any truck I've ever had. In other words it doesn't feel like any other truck. Which is good. And bad. Like every other man made creation. Nothing to worry about. And nothing to drool over. It's just a truck.