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DIY Valve Adjustment on 2006 Ridgeline w/photos

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Hi guys,

PREFACE: If your truck has over 100,000 miles and you are experiencing a check engine light--and your codes are emission-related--they can often be triggered by this common Ridgeline issue of the exhaust valves being too tight (zero to neg lash).

After reading bits and pieces on the web of doing a valve adjustment on all kinds of other Honda V6 engines, I decided to go for it and tackle the job myself. If you haven't done a spark plug change yet, you'll want to do it at the same time. Don't scrimp on plugs, get the original part for these. UPDATE 3/18: Torque settings and other useful info on tackling this job can be found here.

Here are some tips that might help you should you decide to do it yourself, including this master image that will help guide you through the nuts and bolts of it (sorry, couldn't resist):
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1. You will need, at the very least, (2) two replacement valve cover gaskets. These gaskets are different than the original, superseding the ones that came on the car. They are thinner. I prefer the original design, but for whatever reason, Honda changed it. You can use your original gaskets if you're feeling gutsy, but I opted to change these.

2. Yes, the intake manifold has to come off. I left the throttle body attached to the manifold and disconnected all the wires and hoses going to it. The top plate has to come off to gain access to the bolts that hold the manifold to the head. Use napkins shop towels to plug the intake ports!! Do not leave these uncovered--a nut dropped into one of these holes will certainly ruin your day (and possible warrant a full head removal).

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STOP what you are doing now and plug these intake ports before continuing any further! Do it!


3. The injector wire harness and guides do NOT have to be removed, you just have to wiggle the valve covers a bit to get them out (rear). There are two 10mm head bolts holding the back plastic wire cage, the one on the left is hiding a bit. There is also a bracket behind that back left bolt that holds a hose to the valve cover, remove both.

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4. The front valve cover is as easy as pie. You don't even need to take the manifold off to get it off...it's the rear valve cover that takes extra effort. One of the valve cover bolts is hiding behind the plastic wire cage, as shown below.

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Other hoses and brackets that need to be disconnected:

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5. The 19mm crankshaft bolt is accessible from the passenger's side front wheel well, there's a hole for it. You will need a 6" extension on your ratchet to rotate the crank to move from cylinder to cylinder. I put my car in neutral for this. The rubber camshaft plug is on that black plastic cam gear cover to the left of your engine looking in (see master image at top), faces the windshield washer reservoir cap. You open the plug and use a mirror and flashlight to look inside. There will be a line that you'll need to align with the arrow on the plastic (bottom). There will also be a number that tells you what cylinder is ready to be adjusted (cams at lowest lobe position). I've included that master pic that shows the cylinder numbering and firing order for your convenience.

6. The gap for the intake should be set to .008 to .009 and the exhaust from .011 to .013. Loosen the lock nuts that hold the adjuster and set gap. I normally turn the adjuster/tappet down lightly until I feel resistance, then back off 1/4 turn and lock. Make sure you are only adjusting the cylinder that matches to the cam gear! Normally, the rockers will have some play when you are on the correct cylinder; however, I had a few that were TIGHT, which is BAD. This could account for my slight cold engine miss that I was experiencing over the past few months.

7. Once done with the valve adjustments, replace everything in reverse order.
Do NOT forget to remove the ratchet from the crankshaft! Also, remove the towels that you used to plug the intake ports. Don't forget to reattach the water hoses to the throttle body, but sure to clamp those.

8. I reused both of the intake manifold gaskets, as they are very expensive...and the dealer didn't have them in stock (?!?). In any case, it's an easy removal if I ever detected a leak down the road.

9. Fire up your car and listen for hose leaks, look for smoke, watch for anything funky. I forgot the breather hose on the back valve cover, which fortunately was close to the port and started to whistle.

10. Crack open a cold one and relish in your accomplishment! :act035:
 
#2 ·
Re: DIY Valve Job on 2006 Ridgeline w/photos

The added details/clarifications is most appreciated.

You are not the first to mention finding a 'few' tappets too tight. Maybe this is factored in the design and clearances given, we will likely never know.

But just based on that, this seems to a worthwhile procedure even if you only do it once in the life of your truck.
 
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Re: DIY Valve Adjustment on 2006 Ridgeline w/photos

Yes, for sure! BTW, I miswrote the title (calling it a "valve job") and have tried renaming the post, but it hasn't changed. I hope I don't confuse anyone...this is for a VALVE ADJUSTMENT.

Yeah, the car runs like new now, totally worthwhile project. I hope none of my valve were starting to burn. And changing my tensioner was a great idea too, as my engine is SUPER quiet now. I was surprised at how much those tensioner pulleys were adding to the noise my engine made! It's like having a new car again! Highly recommended. If you decide to go for it, PM me if you need help.

Aloha,
Keoni
 
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Re: DIY Valve Job on 2006 Ridgeline w/photos

Yes, for sure! BTW, I miswrote the title (calling it a "valve job") and have tried renaming the post, but it hasn't changed. I hope I don't confuse anyone...this is for a VALVE ADJUSTMENT.

Yeah, the car runs like new now, totally worthwhile project. I hope none of my valve were starting to burn. And changing my tensioner was a great idea too, as my engine is SUPER quiet now. I was surprised at how much those tensioner pulleys were adding to the noise my engine made! It's like having a new car again! Highly recommended. If you decide to go for it, PM me if you need help.

Aloha,
Keoni
Keoni, thanks for the write up. I appreciate it.
Rock
 
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Re: DIY Valve Adjustment on 2006 Ridgeline w/photos

Oh, and btw, my son's 2000 CRV had a few burnt exhaust valves due to sinking valve seats/maladjusted valves. I believe the manual states something like "check at 75,000 miles" but according to my friend, that's too late. They need checking ever 15,000 miles or so!

I wouldn't wait until that happens to check your Ridgeline ;)

Aloha,
Keoni
 
#6 · (Edited)
Re: DIY Valve Adjustment on 2006 Ridgeline w/photos

Looks like you're getting a bit of blow by.. nothing too abnormal for the J-series but I'd keep an eye on it. Nice DIY and this is a very easy job for provide you have the right tools and the patience, and time to do it. :)
Thanks for the tip...are you referring to the varnishing inside the intake manifold? Yeah, I noticed that too. I'm wondering if that might have been caused by the tight valves. I think Honda needs to change their service interval to something much lower than 100,000 in the Maintenance Minder app on the built in computer. I only received the A14 service code now, at 100,000 miles.

Had I known my valves would be that tight, I would have done this service years ago. It runs so smoothly now that I can't even feel the car running when I'm inside--it's that noticeable.

Can you recommend any fuel additives that might help clean up my intake system? I'm trying Lucas now (just added today).

Thanks,
Keoni
 
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Re: DIY Valve Job on 2006 Ridgeline w/photos

Great job Keoni.

Would it be ok with you if I import the pics and descriptions and post them either as part of your original post or in a new post in this thread? (via selective screen shots to include your text). That would just make it cleaner so we don't have to leave the thread to see your pics.
 
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Re: DIY Valve Job on 2006 Ridgeline w/photos

Great job Keoni.

Would it be ok with you if I import the pics and descriptions and post them either as part of your original post or in a new post in this thread? (via selective screen shots to include your text). That would just make it cleaner so we don't have to leave the thread to see your pics.
Sure! I can do it if you like...is there a way to pull the photos into this forum via album (not a link, but actually bringing the photos over)?
 
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Re: DIY Valve Job on 2006 Ridgeline w/photos

The way I would do it would be to upload selective screen shots to imgur.com, a free image hosting site.

Edit: like this:
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#10 · (Edited)
Re: DIY Valve Job on 2006 Ridgeline w/photos

Good thread :cheerleader:
Bookedmarked :act035:

My truck just turned 100k miles last week, it is quiet and smooth, only noise I hear is the normal alternator noise, it is not noise beccause it is normal and hard to even notice. :act035:

What about manage attachments below each post 3 pics max per post.
 
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Re: DIY Valve Job on 2006 Ridgeline w/photos

Good thread :cheerleader:
Bookedmarked :act035:

My truck just turned 100k miles last week, it is quiet and smooth, only noise I hear is the normal alternator noise, it is not noise beccause it is normal and hard to even notice. :act035:

What about manage attachments below each post 3 pics max per post.
Glad to hear it! Be careful, as tight valves make less noise--but are worse for your valve train. Don't skip the valve adjustment, even if your truck is running smooth. BTW, I don't have any alternator noise...double check your tensioner with a stethoscope or hose-to-ear method and I'll bet it's your tensioner pulley bearing going south. It's right next to the alternator pulley, so the noise is hard to isolate. Good luck!

Cheers,
Keoni
 
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Re: DIY Valve Job on 2006 Ridgeline w/photos

As far as the "Varnish" in the intake goes, there isn't too much you can do about it. With the emissions laws sending all of the crankcase gases and more EGR into the intake, that is what they look like with higher mileage.
 
#14 ·
Guys, I must say that my car has regained it's "pep" after this adjustment! Idles really smoothly and now I can feel the extra power when I merge onto the freeway. It's quite noticeable. I didn't expect that.:act024:

Keoni
 
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Thanks, Kootbiker!

I think if my dealer had them in stock (at a fair price), I would have changed them all. But I don't have any leaks or problems thus far, so I think I'm ok. Now that you know what they look like, consider buying them online before you start the project (not like me--just dig into the project and send the kid to pick up gaskets for me...then learn that the dealer is out of stock! ;)

BTW, after doing my timing belt a couple months ago, my Check Engine Light was coming on, throwing code 2279. That's normally an intake leak, but I learned somewhere on a Pilot forum that it could be due to incorrect valve tolerances...which was really the impetus to me actually doing the adjustment. It would have been nice to get a "Check Valve Adjustment" code, but I don't think there is one ;) At least it made me take action--but no one seemed to know why I was getting this code, except the answer I found on that Pilot forum.

Good news: The check engine light is gone! And my truck feels like it has 20+ horsepower boost! I really think Honda needs to rethink the 100,000 mile valve adjustment interval--I think it should have been set to 75,000 miles, as that's when my truck started running less than perfect. Just my opinion.
 
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Considering break in and wear occurring the first few years, 75K is probably a good time to do a valve adjustment. I am sure most will likely put it off until they do the belt, pump, plugs, etc. all in one swoop at 100K or a little over.
In any case, it makes sense to do it if you plan to keep the truck until 150-200K or more!
 
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I am sure most will likely put it off until they do the belt, pump, plugs, etc. all in one swoop at 100K or a little over.
maybe this would be a reason to just do the timing belt early. Take it in to check the valves at 80k and just do the belt while it's torn down.

My 08 w/ 65k has a slight ticking I notice at idle, I can only hear it when I'm outside the truck It's not very loud and can't hear it if I give it some gas, and with the hood open it sounds to me like it's coming from the serpentine belt but it kinda worries me that it could be the valves. or is it just a pulley problem? or no problem and normal?
 
#21 ·
I believe it's preferable to hear a little ticking rather than no ticking at all.
 
#22 ·
Most definitely. I would not rely on how it sounds unless it does not sound normal or like something has really come loose. If you can't hear them when standing near the front you may well have a problem.
 
#23 ·
There are different kinds of "ticking" sounds. Often, it's a fuel injector that's making that noise. You'd need a mechanics stethoscope to help zero in on that sound. That's how I found out my tensioner was making noise when my AC was kicking on (when my mechanic friend was sure it was the AC clutch!).

FYI, I suppose you could pull off each injector wire one at a time and see if the sound goes away. Just a thought.
 
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Yep. I've decided I'm definitely going to do this within the next few months. I'm at 137k miles now and my truck has a vibration at idle while in Drive that goes away when I press the accelerator. I am pretty certain my valve clearances are off. My wife's Accord now has 150k miles and is still extremely smooth with no vibration. Being that we're likely trading that one in within the year, we aren't touching it. The truck - we'll have it at least 3 more years. Just want to make sure it's going to make it that far. I'm going to start calling around to different dealerships soon to see who can do it for the best price - just like I did for the timing belt service. I know it's a pretty time-consuming job and I really don't want to get into it myself. If a trained Honda tech can do it faster than I can for $300 or so, I'll be more than happy to pay for that.
 
#26 ·
Did my valves on sunday at just shy of 154k. On cold starts it idled really rough and had a little stumble and while stopped at lights it idled very rough. So picked up two valve cover gaskets and one intake gasket and went to town. all my exhausts were pretty much closed except a couple had a small bit of movement and all my intakes were about .004 loose. Got all my intakes to a tight .009 and my exhausts to a snug .0012 and it purrrrrrs like a kitten now. Plan about 4 hrs if it isnt your first rodeo and about 6 if it is. Double check all your clearances and all the 10mm adjuster nuts for tightness after manually cycling the motor 2 times.
 
#27 ·
Thanks for the perspective & advise. I have not done mine yet, but am starting to get a little rougher idle than previous. Not bad, but I can feel it coming (135K miles), so I'll be getting around to it probably before year's end.
So what is the intake gasket for? I don't recall reading about anything other than the usual valve covers & engine cover being removed for this job.
 
#28 ·
It says a lot when a fair number of people post about getting a valve adjustment, or they are concerned about a ticking sound, etc. and they have well over 120,000 miles on their trucks.
There seems to be very few major issues reported. I suspect this is not typical for many auto forums. Would I trade a little worse mpg for long term peace of mind? I would and I do.
 
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#34 ·
Dnick. It is a lot easier then you think. I didn't remove any of the coolant lines all I did is exactly what the second link shows you. Just pull the manifold as far as you can straight up off the studs and stand it up on the throttle body. Or an even easier way which I will do in the future is remove the throttle body with the four 14 mm nuts and just pull the intake manifold off completely. Just need to buy a couple buck throttle body gasket. It is a lot easier then you think, just time consuming to pay attention to what you are doing and check your work twice. If it was rear wheel drive v6 not a sidewinder set up then you usually don't remove the intake manifolds.
 
#36 ·
I just finished my first valve adjustment today on my 07 Ridgeline with 165,000 miles. The intakes were all fine, but the exhaust valves were way tight. It fixed my rough idle, and no more fault codes (yet).

Just a few thoughts on the job:

1) It took me about 6 hours start to finish, with several interruptions and some time looking for lost tools.

2) Those rear exhaust valves are a royal PITA! I wanted to rip out that stupid wiring harness! Getting the feeler gauges in place normal to the valve stem was difficult for several of them. Angled gauges (~$8 on eBay) will make the job a little bit easier.

3) Use a torque wrench. The torque specs for everything are pretty light. Without it I would have surely over-torqued everything by nearly double.

4) Don't forget to remove the rags from the intake manifold! I had the manifold cover in place but not torqued before I realized I forgot something.

5) Buy the intake gaskets and valve cover gaskets, not the valve cover gasket kit. Don't replace the spark plug tube seals or the head cover washers unless they are damaged. It's just not worth the hassle. Also, note that the valve cover gaskets are sold individually.
 
#37 ·
I just did the valve adjustment today. I have 165k miles and had code p0175 which would come back almost immediately after I cleared it. It was idling rough and stumbling from a stop. The job took about 6 hours. Angled feeler gauges are really a must for this job. I replaced the valve cover gaskets and the intake top cover and spacer gaskets. Instead of stuffing towels into the ports, I removed the top spacer gasket, put a few strips of duct tape on it, then cut out the two holes for the studs and replaced it. It's a little safer than towels, and I am really good at dropping things into bad places. I used a line clamp ($15 bucks for a set) to close off the coolant lines and pulled the intake with the throttle body in place. After the job was done the truck idled extremely smooth and I have no stumbling or hesitation. Also, no code so far. Very nice to have pictures to refer to when doing a job like this. A top side creeper would have made it a lot easier to get to the rear exhaust valves. Then again, so would losing a hundred pounds. Guess I'll get the creeper next time.
 
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Thanks for great info! My ridge is having trouble with cylinder 6 misfire. I've changed spark plugs, ingnition coils, and no change. Next I will clean EGR valve: if no change, I think I'm gonna try this valve adjustment.
I was wondering if anyone can give me parts numbers for gasket etc that I should have? I even don't know what angled feeler is: if anyone can tell me what it is and where to find the tool I would appreciate it a LOT! Thank you!
'06 ridge RTL w Navi 150,000miles
 
#40 ·
Prior to the valve adjustment I was averaging 14.7-16.5 mpg. After the valve adjustment, I've only filled three times so far, I've gotten 18.3, 18.3, and 18.1.

ZowieK, you need:

Valve cover gaskets (Honda calls it a head cover gasket) Part #12341-RCA-A01. They are sold individually, so you'll need 2.
Intake manifold gasket Part #17105-RCA-A01. I only changed the top one, but there is a second identical one under the intake riser. You don't have to remove the riser, but it unbolts with the manifold.
Intake Manifold Cover Gasket Part #17146-RJE-A01

This is the angled feeler gauge set that I bought:
If I were to do the job again, I would invest in or try to borrow a topside creeper, which I had never heard of before this. Also, make sure to use torque wrenches and follow the proper torque patterns. Good luck!
 
#41 ·
To everybody who has 125,000+ miles, and have not had this service done yet, I highly recommend it. I had mine done last Tuesday and my engine is running like it did when it was new. I had the same symptoms as some folks mentioned in this thread…a little bit of a “tick, tick, tick” noise on startup, rough idle, and my MPG has slowly fallen over the last year or so…from right around 18.5 to around 17 or less as of late. I did the normal maintenance items, plugs and such, but the noises/poor mileage continued.

After the valve adjustment, my truck runs better, the idle is smooth as silk (almost unnoticeable sitting in the truck), the motor has more pep (feels as if this valve adjustment may have recovered a few of the ponies I have lost over the last 10 years), and the truck is more enjoyable to drive. Not sure about the effects, one way or another, on MPG so far, because I haven’t gone through a full tank since the valve adjustment has been done…but I will keep track the next few tanks and to report back here.

I consider myself a decent mechanic, have taken on all but the hardest jobs on my RL, and thought about taking this job on myself. But, after talking with a couple friends who work in the automotive repair industry, I figured it was just a bit out of my league. I just didn’t have the intestinal fortitude to take this job on.

So, I called around to a ½ dozen different places and, surprisingly, the service dept. at my dealership was the least expensive…plus I had a coupon for $40 off of any work at my dealership, so it brought the total price, after tax, disposal fees, etc., to $372. About $50 less than everybody else.

Anyway, I know this is an older thread and all, but I figured this was the best place to put my comments
 
#44 ·
That was pretty much my experience, too. The price is comparable to what I paid at my dealership, as well. I did notice a smoother-running engine with a little more pep. My valves weren't really all that out of place, though. At 140k-ish miles when I had it done, I think that's a testament to how good this engine really is.