The Prologue appears to be losing steam electrons(?).

Honda has cut orders of the model from GM.

 

So how much longer do you think the Prologue will be produced - through 2025? Thank you for reminding me about this YT reviewer, I lost track of him.

 

I watch Sean and John on Autoline Daily...well...daily. They do a good job summarizing the latest automotive news - mostly sticking with the facts and leaving most of the bias out except the very rare somewhat snarky opinion.

 

The Prologue is so aptly named... I give it a 3 year runway.

 

One month isn't exactly a great sample, but far better than some guy shouting about "Hondas sitting on the lots, not selling!"

Sales do fluctuate month to month and year to year. I looked up the Ridgeline numbers a while back and they seem to average around 40,000 units/year and I'd venture to say that Honda doesn't try to push the production, avoiding overstock. The figures are nothing compared to the sales of F150s and Tacomas, but they are consistent. Obviously Honda will be "down" in the sales percentages with the inclusion of the Maverick, the Ranger, and the Santa Cruz, but the fact is they are relatively steady in their pure numbers sold. That was interesting to me.

In late 2023 when I bought my Ridgeline, I wanted the red RTL and it wasn't in stock. So I got on the list for the second one to come in, with someone ahead of me on the list. About two weeks later I get a call, the customer ahead of me backed out and I got my vehicle.

In 2020 when my wife bought the HR-V EX she wanted blue. They didn't have blue. They tried to talk her into a white or silver, but she was set on blue. The HR-V comes out of Mexico, making delivery range a bit due to travel. The dealer kept bugging her about every week or so, they wanted her 2017 Civic with around 40K on it quite badly. But she waited it out for like two months and got her blue HR-V. Part of the reason for blue? She could spot it in parking lots easier... until more blue ones got out there and the CR-V blue almost matches. So much for the parking lot thing,

One reason she didn't do white was that it seems the white paint is a bit softer than other colors from what I understood. For her it was how white shows dirt. Silver, just too bland.

 

Has anyone calculated the cost of charging an EV, in equivalent mpg, and also amortized the cost of the house wiring and charging port….over any period of time?

 

A guy on YouTube did that once on a Tesla. See if you can search it.

 

Countless times and there is a wide variety of situations.

The average driver who parks overnight within 25 feet of a standard, 120V receptacle wouldn't have to spend a dime on house wiring.

Others might have to spend thousands of dollars on charging equipment and wiring accommodations.

Some people have cheap electricity, but expensive gasoline.

Others have cheap gasoline, but expensive electricity.

 

Sales of the Ridgeline dropped to 3,254 from 3,979 units in February for a - 18.2% MoM change.

• Honda brand February sales totaled 97,688 as demand remains strong across the lineup
• Honda light trucks posted an all-time record February with sales of over 70,000 units, up almost 9% YoY
  • CR-V continued to lead all Honda models in sales, topping 30,000 units
  • CR-V Hybrid set a new record with 17,176 units in February, representing over 56% sales mix
  • Pilot sales of 10,204 keep it #1 in segment and up nearly 10% YoY; TrailSport models at a strong 17% mix
  • HR-V posted a record February with sales of 13,484 as the gateway Honda CUV, up 11.3% over January
  • Prologue continues strong momentum with sales of nearly 3,000 units
  • Odyssey remains #1 in segment with sales up 16.5% YoY, over 6,700 units for its best February in 7 years
  • Passport sales were up nearly 35% over last year, buoyed by early success of the all-new 2026 Honda Passport that went on sale Feb. 11; TrailSport models represent an impressive 32% of Passport sales
• Honda set an all-time record in February for sales of electrified vehicles with 31,551 units, led by strong sales of the Civic Hybrid – 2025 North American Car of the Year, CR-V Hybrid, Accord Hybrid and Prologue EV
• Civic led Honda passenger cars with sales of over 18,000 units, with Civic hybrid topping 33% of sales mix, contributing to record February sales for Civic hybrid
• Accord hybrid totaled 60% of February sales, with overall model performance slowed by the shutdown of the Marysville Auto Plant for much of December and January for retooling to establish the Honda EV Hub

https://hondanews.com/en-US/honda-corporate/releases/release-28556cec8c60d45354dbdd1404023eb6-american-honda-maintains-sales-momentum-with-strong-sales-of-light-truck-and-electrified-models

 

I predict the Ridgeline's sales will be unexciting and unimpressive at best until a third-generation goes on sale. Let's face it - the current generation has now spanned nine years. It is OLD. I think a new Ridgeline that heavily borrows styling from the new Passport will result in a return to sales closer to the current Ridgeline's best months.

I wonder how much longer the Accord will hang around? It now sells one-third as many as it did 10 and 20 years ago and continues to trend downward. I'd pull the plug and put that money into the Civic.

 

I did check out Ridgeline sales over the years. Yes it can be considered unimpressive, but if you see the number over the past several years, Honda's held reasonably consistent sales numbers with the Ridgeline. There are years up and years down, like all sales. But the key point is that Honda will not, in the foreseeable future, have numbers like others, because they don't make a full size or a small size truck, they don't do a body on frame truck, and they don't build a stripped down truck that requires a bunch of add-ons. Honda has one basic design with model variations on some equipment. Most sales numbers are going to lump all of the basic design trucks in one number. Ford lumps all their full size trucks into one number. Impressive numbers, but multiple versions are in that number.

How old do you think the #1 selling pickup truck, F model Ford, design is? The suspension and chassis set up. How much redesigning has it had over the past? Plus consider just how many models there are of that basic design. Ford includes the 150, 250, and 350 each with the 2wd and 4wd along with a multitude of variations of those models. GMC/Chevrolet do the same. Toyota has two basic designs with multiple variations but not quite as many. Honda makes 4 model variations using single basic design.

Honda will never have numbers like Ford or Toyota unless they make more basic designs and multiple driveline models. Not seeing that happen at this time. I'd be surprised if the only option upcoming would be the addition of the hybrid. Maybe there could be a suspension modification that would increase ground clearance for a better off road vehicle, but I wouldn't hold my breath for anything radical. But hey, we can hope.

I can see Honda using new Passport design and tech that can cross over. I can see them maybe doing a hybrid. But it will take more new manufacturing facilities to attempt to sell at the level of the companies that I've mentioned.

I know a lot of people want a hybrid, but I'm betting an equal number still want the IC engine. Still that should be one definite "do" for Honda.

If Honda broadens its models or does what it takes to cut prices sales numbers would grow, but, for Honda, would profits grow? They just haven't done it yet and from a company point of view, unless it can lead to some serious profit margin why do any radical changes. It still is best in the niche it fills.

One other consideration in sales, Honda sales drop by 10,000 units, that's a 20-25% drop. Ford dropped 5% last year, that's 20,000 vehicles. Just sayin' percentages can be deceiving.

I used a Motortrend best selling cars and SUVs for my information on the Fords.

 

I still think there is value in the Accord name - Bring back the wagon in electric form!

 

I love how they say Passport sales increased by 35% which equates to 900 units.

 

Are these numbers based on Honda Corp. to dealer sales or actual dealer to customer sales? Are leases considered sales?
As far as Ford goes if you took out fleet sales what would the numbers show and once again the same questions above apply.
I don't know about your areas but where I live you go by any Ford, Chevy/GMC or Ram dealership and they are plugged full of trucks. The Honda & Nissan dealerships may have 3 or 4 Ridgelines Frontiers on the lot. Toyota usually none. So again are sales based on Corporate to dealers or dealer to customer sales?

 

Leases definitely count as sales or the Prologue would have very few sales. There will be far less sales of the Prologue depending upon how Honda deals with the 25% tariff on vehicles made in Mexico. Perhaps they will place the entire cost on the Prologue or spread it our among other models to lessen the pain for buyers.

 

The threat of tariffs must have spurred sales a bit, as every vehicle in the Honda lineup saw a rise in sales for March, apart from the Accord and the Civic. Honda is still trying to sugarcoat lackluster sales of the Accord. The Ridgeline had a great month with sales of 4,831 units.

Sales Highlights

• Honda light truck sales deliver best month of all-time and record Q1 sales.
  • CR-V scores best sales month in history (45,587) with best hybrid-electric sales of all-time representing 54% of total CR-V sales.
  • Pilot March sales of 13,589 up 7.2% YoY, and 8.6% in Q1.
  • Passport posts record March sales of 5,558, up 87.8% YoY as all-new model begins to hit dealerships.
  • HR-V tops 15,000 units, setting a new March record and putting down its second-best month of all time.
  • Odyssey reaches sales surpass 10,000 units for first time in six years and Ridgeline posts sales of 4,831.
  • Prologue has the best month of the year with March sales of 2,884 units.
• Honda passenger car sales achieve best month of 2025.
  • Civic sales of 24,625 units boosted by hybrid setting best month of all-time (8,642) and record quarterly (20,192) sales.
  • Accord sales top 12,000 units with over 63% of sales being hybrid-electric.

https://hondanews.com/en-US/honda-corporate/releases/american-honda-continues-sales-momentum-with-multiple-march-and-q1-sales-records?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=American%20Honda%20Continues%20Sales%20Momentum%20with%20Multiple%20March%20and%20Q1%20Sales%20Records&utm_content=American%20Honda%20Continues%20Sales%20Momentum%20with%20Multiple%20March%20and%20Q1%20Sales%20Records+CID_1a8010f45feaa5015c5d2ce57ae65cc5&utm_source=Honda%20Campaign%20Monitor&utm_term=View%20Full%20Release

 

I continue to wonder why Acura still exists. Every...single...model is down YoY.

 

Acura should be their EV division, like Cadillac is for GM.

 

I suspect when the recession hits in a few months, sedans will start selling better than SUVs. That might save the Accord.

As for the strong PROP (Pilot, Ridgeline, Odyssey, Passport) sales, there's a large faction of people out there that prefers NA V6 over anything four-cylinder or turbo. May be what they're thinking will be their last long-term reliable vehicle. [If I were shooting for longterm reliability, I'd go for a Civic Si or Integra with the manual trans, or a Mazda with manual]

 

The 1.5T blows head gaskets . The most reliable is no longer made. Civic Sport HB with the 2.0NA, port FI, manual transmission. 🙁

 

Honda and Acura (relatively speaking) continue with strong sales numbers in April 2025. Ridgeline sales increased by 8.2% in April with sales of 4,274 units compared to 3,949 units in March.

• Honda brand sales totaled 123,637 in April, up 16.6% for the month, 8.5% for the year, with passenger cars, light trucks and electrified models posting sales gains across the lineup
• Honda light trucks posted April sales of 88,807 units, up 24% YoY
  • CR-V continued to lead all Honda models in sales with 41,483 units for its best month of April ever, with hybrid sales mix over 53%
  • Pilot sales of more than 12,000 were up 2.3% YoY
  • All-new Passport posted its record April sales, with 5,457 units, up 98.9% in April
  • HR-V posted strong April sales of 13,912 as the gateway Honda CUV, up 6.7% year to date and its best April ever
  • Odyssey sales of 9,677 units were up 32.1% YoY, for its best April in 9 years
• Honda set an all-time April record for sales of electrified vehicles with 38,785 units, led by hybrid-electric models with Civic sales over 34% hybrid, CR-V over 53% hybrid and Accord topping 60% hybrid mix. Sales of the all-electric Prologue SUV reached 1,847 units
• Civic led Honda passenger cars on sales of 23,553 units, with Civic hybrid achieving a record April and its second-best month of all-time

https://hondanews.com/en-US/honda-corporate/releases/american-honda-posts-multiple-april-sales-records-powered-by-new-models-and-improving-supply?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=American%20Honda%20Posts%20Multiple%20April%20Sales%20Records%20Powered%20by%20New%20Models%20and%20Improving%20Supply&utm_content=American%20Honda%20Posts%20Multiple%20April%20Sales%20Records%20Powered%20by%20New%20Models%20and%20Improving%20Supply+CID_3164e9f7680cac0f54ddfe38e364807a&utm_source=Honda%20Campaign%20Monitor&utm_term=View%20Full%20Release

 

For me, the fact that the ridgeline edition had been around for awhile was a big plus. Stuff that works is more important than new features. I particularly did not want a teeny turbo engine and I can assure you that the next edition will have that. Of course maybe I think this because I’m old too. 77. First ridgeline.

 

I particularly did not want a teeny turbo engine and I can assure you that the next edition will have that.

The next Ridgeline (if there is one) will almost certainly continue to use a 3.5L V6 - specifically, the all-new VTEC-less, DOHC J35Y8 that debuted in the newest Pilot which no longer requires valve adjustments. That engine will likely continue to be used until 2030 at least since it currently meets emission requirements until then.

 

So they sold 14k Acuras for the whole brand and 11k Accords in April. In the race to zero, which one will break through the 10k threshold first?

 

Some of the Accord drop in sales could be due to a slowdown in Accord production as the Marysville plant is being retooled for EV production. On cars.com there are about 13K new Accords listed for sale nationwide and over 25K CR-Vs.

 

And now that's changing. Honda is putting a hold on full EVs, going to the hybrids for now. Something tells me tariffs may be part of the influence there. Maybe a hybrid Ridgeline by around 2028, hopefully sooner.

 

Honda continues to have strong sales overall in May 2025, while Acura is still struggling. Sales of the Ridgeline rose to 4,289 units in May. Ridgeline sales for May 2024 were actually 1,712 units which really surprised me. I forgot they were so low during that time.

https://hondanews.com/en-US/releases/american-honda-posts-strong-may-results-on-balanced-sales-of-cars-trucks-and-electrified-models

 

Honda continues to have strong sales overall in May 2025, while Acura is still struggling. Sales of the Ridgeline rose to 4,289 units in May. Ridgeline sales for May 2024 were actually 1,712 units which really surprised me. I forgot they were so low during that time.

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Yes, they were on hold for a couple months due to a recall and lack of parts, IIRC.

 

Ridgeline posted a record June sales month with 4,767 units.

https://hondanews.com/en-US/honda-corporate/releases/american-honda-strong-sales-momentum-leads-to-june-q2-and-first-half-sales-increase?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=American%20Honda%20Strong%20Sales%20Momentum%20Leads%20to%20June%20Q2%20and%20First%20Half%20Sales%20Increase&utm_content=American%20Honda%20Strong%20Sales%20Momentum%20Leads%20to%20June%20Q2%20and%20First%20Half%20Sales%20Increase+CID_66efa4a1879a704b95baabcb6c320e41&utm_source=Honda%20Campaign%20Monitor&utm_term=View%20Full%20Release

 

With those sweet discounts I would hope so. Be with 5k off is a good deal for an outdated vehicle IMO.

 

Boy, selling around 4,000 more Ridgelines this year to date than last year...

Where are all those unsold Ridgelines that the YouTube experts say are not selling?

 

American Honda Sets Records for Light Truck and Electrified Sales in Strong July Results

• Honda brand sales totaled 110,927 in July (up 6.2% in 2025), maintaining strong momentum with passenger cars, light trucks and electrified models posting strong sales across the lineup
• Led by record July sales of the all-new Passport, Honda light truck July sales posted a record July and 6th straight month over 70,000 units (up 12.7% YTD)
  • CR-V again led all Honda models in July sales (32,268 units), with CR-V hybrid over 54% of sales mix
  • All-new Passport had record July sales (4,762), up 86.5% YoY, with TrailSport models at about 3/4 of mix
  • HR-V (11,715), Pilot (9,910), Ridgeline (4,999) and Odyssey (8,821) all posted strong July sales, with Ridgeline scoring its best July ever and Odyssey up 27.4% for the year
  • Prologue posted record July sales of 6,318 units (up 82.7% YoY)
• Honda passenger car sales again topped 30,000 units, led by Civic with 19,044 units and Civic hybrid posting a best-ever 41% of model mix
• Honda electrified vehicles set an all-time July record with 38,050 units

Ridgeline sales rose to 4,999 units in July 2025 from 4.148 units in July 2024. It appears consumers are not waiting on the 2026.

https://hondanews.com/en-US/honda-corporate/releases/release-6f8b202ddb1c7f26ecd92774bb0217e2-american-honda-sets-records-for-light-truck-and-electrified-sales-in-strong-july-results

 

But... but... but the You Tube know-it-alls say the Ridgelines are stacked up at the dealers and not selling.


Yeah, Honda's Ridgeline sales is pretty darn steady over the years. That's why they should stick with the formula that is working for the Ridgeline and make or have a rebrand (Nissan) under a new name. I, personally, have been very happy to have gotten the Ridgeline. It does all that I want, including riding like an SUV (not a negative in my book).