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It would seem that not all of the vehicles built within those date ranges are included in the recall. My 2018 doesn't show up in the NHTSA search either.
Presumably, vehicles manufactured in June/July of 2018 are 2019MYs. What is the date of mfg on your 2018?
 
Looking for excess metals, I sent my oil in for testing last month. RL had about 46K miles then. All good, no sign of abnormal levels. I may have dodged this one. Manf. date 9-19. Fuel pump tomorrow, after a 3 month wait. :rolleyes:
Negligible oil consumed between changes, maybe 1/5 qt.
 
Well not yet, but that is no surprise. The later model Ridgelines may or may not end up being recalled. Much more often than not, it takes 3 or 4 years minimum for these sorts of problems to be fully revealed, and then to have enough failure instances that a recall eventually is forced on the manufacturer. For obvious reasons, auto manufacturers do NOT want to do major recalls -- it costs them a lot of money, and their reputation suffers.

Case in point -- the Toyota Tundra redesign -- 2022 to present. These trucks are blowing engines right and left. The 2022 and 2023 were finally recalled. Blown engines on warranty initially were being replaced with short blocks -- lots of labor for the Toyota techs. But now they are replacing them with long blocks.

The 2024 Tundras and even some 2025's have also started blowing engines, but the recall has not yet been expanded to 2024-25. Clearly Toyota has not solved the problem. I expect the newer ones will eventually be added to the recall, but that will take some time.

Similarly, it will take a few years to see if any of the later model Ridgelines end up with the same V6 issues. The jury is out and will be out for a while.
And how long has the same V6 been in the ridgeline?
 
The recall covers Ridgelines built between May 6 to May 16 2016, and June 9 to July 27 2018. If yours wasn't built in those date ranges you wouldn't have been notified. The build date is on the driver's side door frame.
Thanks - I saw the date range when I pulled up the recall PDF; then checked my build date on the door frame.
Mine was built 01/17; same month I bought it. I should be "safe" on this particular recall.
 
And how long has the same V6 been in the ridgeline?
The J35Y6 was first used in the TLX in 2014. It is still used 11 years later including in all second-generation Ridgelines and the Odyssey - the last two vehicles to use it. It is being replaced by the J35Y8 that is all-new despite sharing the same displacement.
 
V6s for the RL are assembled at the Alabama plant. The ZF-9 AT is assembled in SC by ZF. At some point Honda transitioned V6 production from the Anna, OH engine plant to Alabama so the recall population may have been assembled in OH.
This would make the most sense why the issue was...relatively isolated. Appreciate the insight!
 
V6s for the RL are assembled at the Alabama plant. The ZF-9 AT is assembled in SC by ZF. At some point Honda transitioned V6 production from the Anna, OH engine plant to Alabama so the recall population may have been assembled in OH.
I recall something about Honda borrowing short blocks from Acura as they (Honda) were running short, and it was those Acura blocks that were having the bearing issues? Hence the reasoning for serial numbers (and dates affected) jumping around and not sequential. I believe it is on the older megathread posted about this subject.
 
Presumably, vehicles manufactured in June/July of 2018 are 2019MYs. What is the date of mfg on your 2018?
I'd have to check, but I purchased it in Feb 2018
 
When I saw that GM was recommending a thicker oil for their 6.2L V8, I started thinking about how our Honda’s use 0w-20, and wondered if they might end up recommending a similar situation down the road. 5w-30 has always appeared to be a well proven weight in Motor oil.

Mine RL has a build date of Jan 2020, so for now I’m good, but who knows later on?

In terms of oil, I use Mobil 1 0w-20 Truck & SUV, and thus far haven’t had issues with 67k miles on it (got it with 23k miles on the odo).
 
When I saw that GM was recommending a thicker oil for their 6.2L V8, I started thinking about how our Honda’s use 0w-20, and wondered if they might end up recommending a similar situation down the road. 5w-30 has always appeared to be a well proven weight in Motor oil.

Mine RL has a build date of Jan 2020, so for now I’m good, but who knows later on?

In terms of oil, I use Mobil 1 0w-20 Truck & SUV, and thus far haven’t had issues with 67k miles on it (got it with 23k miles on the odo).
It is possible that that could happen, but it is also important to remember that if an engine won't benefit from 0w40, then you won't see any difference, other than slightly decreased MPG.

IOW, don't just throw 0w40 in your Honda thinking it will prevent issues, or that it will protect the engine better. If you ran your engine at 6500rpm all day long in 90+ temps, then the 40w would help, but how often do you do that?

In the case of the 6.2L, the engine bearings are wearing in such a way and under such conditions that the 40w will protect those bearings better under extreme stress. In simplified terms, GM will check the alignment of the crank, and if it doesn't meet spec, you will get a new short block. If it does meet spec, they will recommend the 0w40.
 
I thought GM is only addressing unsold vehicles.

For Honda, we still don't read about engine failures at high levels and it seems like some aren't covered anyway, outside the population. Meanwhile, Honda continues to run out the clock. Still no answers as to how many engines have been replaced and if the failed engines that were eligible for repairs/replacement had the knock that IMO all of these engines have. The media isn't much help either, they just throw out large numbers for a headline but buried in the story is that a tiny fraction of the population to be checked will receive a fix. Does this mean you own a ticking time bomb and once out of warranty you're SOL or is it a low impact liability to Honda and Honda owners. I don't think we will ever know unless the government isn't satisfied with Honda's plan. IMO this one is a yawner but how Honda deals with it creates the interest.
 
GenI Ridgeline has been around since 2006 (2005 actually) and was originally specced with 5-20 oil and later shifted to 0-20 (which was subsequently approved for use in all years of the GenI) There has been NO notable indication of lubrication based failures over millions of miles driven in thousands of vehicles. I doubt very seriously that the oil weight is the underlying cause for 2nd Gen bearing failures. Could a heavier weight oil help the problem limp along a bit longer? Who knows? . . .Maybe or maybe not, but again it's not likely the root cause of the issue but rather a manufacturing problem.
 
Just a reminder that the engine failures that triggered the recall were caused by out of tolerance crankshaft connecting rod bearings. The problem was caused by improper machine configuration during crankshaft manufacturing. That's according to Honda anyway. My memory is fuzzy on this, but I think they might have tracked the problem down to one particular parts supplier.

So the recall is about a manufacturing issue that affected a small number of engines that were built with crankshafts that might be out of spec,and among the vehicles recalled less than one percent were expected to actually require repair. Again, that's according to Honda. The recall had nothing to do with a design issue or poor lubrication.

The current investigation of engine failures on vehicles that weren't in the recall is just that - an investigation. There isn't enough information available publicly to know if it's the same problem as the recall, a different manufacturing problem, a design problem, or maybe even not a problem at all (i.e. the number of failed engines might be within the normal range).
 
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