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2023 Chevrolet Colorado & GMC Canyon

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#1 ·
All crew cabs now which is unfortunate. Nailed the looks, a welcome update but stuff you would expect to be standard is not.

 
#2 · (Edited)
Of the used Colorados currently listed for sale on CarGurus.com:

76% are crew cabs
23% are extended cabs
1% are regular cabs

81% have regular beds
19% have long beds

73% have the V6/I5 engine
25% have the I4 engine

I can certainly understand the logic of distilling the model down to a crew cab with a regular bed and a more powerful engine.

I find it odd that they placed the shift lever on the passenger's side of the center console.

The 2.7T HO should allow the Colorado to easily reclaim its title as the quickest mid-size truck - the Colorado and Ridgeline have shuffled back and forth here. EDIT: Maybe not given the weight gain!
 
#3 ·
I’m sure it will be quick but it’s up to 500 lbs heavier than before so it needs that extra torque. HP is the same as the current V6. IMO it’s too big now. Several inches bigger than our Ridgeline in every dimension. Years ago I had a GMC Sonoma Extended cab which would look like a toy compared to this new Colorado. I wonder if they made it larger to open up room for a smaller truck like the Ford Maverick. An affordable electric truck the size of the Maverick would be very interesting.
 
#8 · (Edited)
I can't find any published info regarding the width but the height is high, a good 6-8 inches higher than the RL. I think that for those folks that think the Colorado may fit into their garage if the width remains similar, they will be in for a surprise with the roof hitting a garage door that isn't close to fully horizontal when in the open position.

EDIT: Motor Trend shows a width of 84.4?? Must include mirrors?

Yes, I know that crew cabs dominate but it looks like Nissan and Ford will be the only places to go to get a bed that's over 6 feet. This Colorado will be heavier too and with it up in the air it should guzzle despite the 4 banger. I think Chevy made a mistake by not having LED headlights standard across the range. As mentioned maybe there is room for Chevy to offer something smaller in the lineup. Let's see what Ford comes up with for the next Ranger and it will be another year for the Tacoma. Chevy did good though, love the looks and the stance, no rake. Roman on TFL had nothing but nice things to say about the RL in his video today when mentioning the midsize class.
 
#9 ·
It doesn’t suit my needs and wants but it is a nice looking machine. The dashboard is attractive but the round vents at the flanks look a bit out of place.

The tailgate storage is an interesting idea but I’m not crazy about it. When a truck is used as a truck, the tailgate sees quite a bit of abuse. Nearly everything that gets loaded gets drug across it. The little latches look vulnerable to damage and I wonder about sand and junk getting in them which would either make them difficult to operate or damage them. But I’m sure they tested it extensively.

The weight of modern midsize trucks is astonishing. 5000+ lbs. My old F250 barely weighed that with me in the driver's seat. Of course that was 20 years ago…I’m sure I’ve sucked up a few pounds of payload since then.

Steve
 
#10 ·
Looks nice—the Tacoma should be flattered, it has so many imitators.

The engine choices are interesting—no diesel, which is unfortunate for people who tow a lot.

The price should be high and gas mileage low, so nothing too tempting about it for me.
 
#12 ·
Well I’ve only had one diesel vehicle—a Mercedes-based 3L turbo diesel RV—and maintenance and DEF were pretty trivial considerations. (My brother has a Passat TDI that is a great car—very sporty, and gets in the high 40’s for highway gas mileage.)

The Colorado diesel gets 20/30 mpg. Importantly it makes all that torque down low, so excellent for towing and carrying loads. (It is a slug though.)

Yes diesel is currently more expensive than petrol (not the case when I had my Winnebago). But I assume the Chevy will have to use premium? It’s currently $0.24 less per gallon than diesel in Nebraska.

My response would be that heavy duty towing with a small turbo‘d gas engine would likely be less reliable in the long run than towing with a turbodiesel, which is tried and true. Also, the Colorado diesel starts at $41K. NO WAY are you getting a top-of-the-line Chevy engine in the new Colorado for that price. My guess is $55K at least.

I’m not a diesel fanboy, but a lot of “real truck guys” who haul stuff sure are.
 
#13 ·
I don't have a dog in this fight, but....

The H.O. 2.7L has more HP and torque than my coworker's V10 F250.

That being said, I wouldn't want to pull more than 5k with any midsized truck, and if I pulled more than 5k often, I'd have a HD truck.

However, I can see where someone would feel more comfortable pulling 5k, or even 4k, with a truck rated for 7.7k.

Based on that Jalopnik article, it sounds like GM will offer a kit to "tune" the mid-level engine up to the top level, but the base engine will need a lot more work to up the power.
 
#14 ·
Diesel is all but dead in the US market.
That MB Sprinter maintenance is a good example of high maintenance. 13 quarts of special 229.52 low ash required to satisfy the DPF can run over $100. Dealer oil changes are common at over $300.

Low ash oil has gotten less expensive if you look around.
Theres is nothing cheap about diesel emissions issues with DEF, DPF, EGR, glow plugs, oil, 25% higher cost of fuel.

I have one ( Sprinter) with 50k miles love the power and torque, very good fuel economy for a RV, pulls a trailer……but……it is a love-hate relationship when things go wrong.
 
#15 ·
Good old GM - you really have to unpick the marketing spin. "Chevy says its third-generation Colorado will begin production in the first half of 2023 " so that means the 2023 truck is at least a year away from a production start (let alone deliveries). But they need to keep interest up in the meantime. At the same time, GM says its electric Silverado will be a 2024 model. So that means it might possibly be available in 2025?

I'm not sure why they bother TBH.People can only buy actual cars and trucks for sale, so what's' the point of these two-year-in-the-future model teases? Distraction?
 
#16 ·
I traded in a 2019 Canyon Diesel LB for my 22 Ridgeline. Before that I owned a gas Colorado. They are no where near the quality of the Ridgeline. The diesel required DEF every 2.5K miles and 2 fuel filters every 25K miles, not to mention the only oil that could be used was DEXOS II. GM had to put multiple sensors for emissions control, and there are many horror stories of guys stranded on the side of the road becuase the computer either went into limp mode or just shut down. COVID hurt the parts supply chain bad for the diesel, and there are still trucks sitting that are waiting on sensors!! Mine luckily never had problems but after 50K miles I could not justify the extra expense (the improved mileage was offset by the higher cost of diesel) and got out while the trade in values are good. The Ridgeline feels bigger, quitter and is built to a much higher standard. My brother has a 1st gen 2007 Ridgeline that he bought new with only regular maintenance. Glad to be here!
 
#22 ·

With a 7700# tow limit, the GMC Canyon AT-4/X definitely performs the Ridgeline. Honda has some work to do.
That truck actually looks pretty good, but as usual where will it stand with regard to reliability? I think we all know the answer. Still lacking adequate second row legroom. They borrowed the tilted tailgate design from the Santa Cruz.
 
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#26 ·
Hey, unlike the Colorado it's Led headlights on all trims. Starts at 40 and tops out at close to 64. Looks raptor-ish. They say they're all high and wide. This one is a looker for sure but it's 2022 and we are still producing a G80 diff? One thing I didn't know is margins are tight on electric cars.

 
#27 ·
I'm curious to see what the new GM twins are like. I test drove all the midsizers before getting my 19 RL and the Colorado had the next best ride. It was the seats and reliability that turned me away (the seat bottom is short). The older Frontier with the 4.0L was the runner up to the RL for me - I love the utility and durability of those trucks, but just couldn't get past the fact I was buying something so outdated. With that, these new trucks look great and have the potential to be class leaders. The more competition in this class, the better off we all are.
 
#29 ·
Colorado price leak. I love the looks of the new Z71.
  • 2023 Colorado WT, rear-wheel-drive: $30,695
  • 2023 Colorado WT, four-wheel-drive: $33,995
  • 2023 Colorado LT, rear-wheel-drive: $33,095
  • 2023 Colorado LT, four-wheel-drive: $36,395
  • 2023 Colorado Trail Boss, four-wheel-drive-only: $38,495
  • 2023 Colorado Z71: $41,395
  • 2023 Colorado ZR2: $48,295
  • 2023 Colorado ZR2 Desert Boss: $57,590
 
#31 ·
I'm watching these trucks closely - if they prove reliable it could be my next one in a couple years. Also want to see if the Ridgeline gets the pilot makeover for 2024.
 
#32 ·
Looks like they will offer something for everyone except for those that want a 6 foot bed. I think they have aced the looks for both brands and the volume trims for the Colorado (LT, Z71) are in the range.

Still, I want to see what the next Taco will offer because it looks like all the below 40k trucks will be 4 cylinder turbos except for the Frontier.
 
#35 ·
I wonder what the picture will look like as far as acquisition time? I know the new 2024 ranger goes into production in May 2023 but who knows when the general public will actually get them. I believe the ranger will be wider overall compared to the colorado and the bed is supposed to be bigger too. (wider and available 6' bed) I do like that the ranger uses the 10 speed vs the 8 speed in the colorado. I was mistaken though its not the 8L90 it is a new second gen 8L80. GM says they fixed the issues with the first gen transmission "as much as they reasonably could".
 
#36 ·
I like the new look of the trucks and the interior is a huge improvement. I'm ok with the 4 cylinder turbo out of the 1/2 ton but disappointed they carried over the problematic 8 speed transmission, even if they say it's improved.
I think I posted this in another thread here somewhere but I actually went to my dealer (who's a friend) to order a new 2023 Canyon but the fact GMC mandates all trucks come with their $1,500 Onstar "option" nixed the deal. Considered the all new Ranger (he sells them too) but the more I thought about all the things I like on my Ridgeline I just couldn't in good conscience give them all up to get a Ford. My 2023 RTL should be here by next week.