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265/60/18 Michelin Defender LTX M/S

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#1 ·
Got some new shoes!

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No rubbing on full lock. They're quiet and they seem softer over bumps so far. Makes sense with the taller sidewall. Just drove it a short ways home from the tire store. I'll post impressions in the next few days. I won't be able to compare fuel mileage to the stock tires since I put them on at 113 miles. I'll also try and get some better pictures later on.
 
#2 ·
Those definitely fill out the wheel wells, better. Nice! You can compare your MPG results on these to the EPA standards... you'll get a close enough comparison for others to get an idea if this is a good route to go. Thanks for sharing!
 
#4 ·
I've got this one, but the lighting isn't the best.

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Here are some pics showing the clearance at full turn. It's tight, but I don't think it'll rub even when flexing, the closest bit of plastic is vertical, nothing immediately above the tire to contact if it raises in relation to the wheel well. I'd estimate an inch or less on each side. I can measure later.

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#16 ·
Here are some pics showing the clearance at full turn. It's tight, but I don't think it'll rub even when flexing, the closest bit of plastic is vertical, nothing immediately above the tire to contact if it raises in relation to the wheel well. I'd estimate an inch or less on each side. I can measure later.
Thanks for being one of the early guinea pigs. Yours are 30.5, correct? Do you think a 31" diameter tire would rub?
 
#7 ·
Nah... Think you'd be fine. No worst than any other vehicle filling the wheel well.
 
#10 · (Edited)
I'll take that into account. The difference is minimal though. One of the reasons I went with the 265/60 vs the 255/65.

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Drove on the highway this morning. Very quiet, OEM's weren't terrible, but these are noticeably better. I don't have any complaints about noise, that's for sure. Also very comfortable. Only issue is that the particular tire store I went to didn't' balance the tires well. Though, I've yet to find anyone who does. I guess I get to try again and give them another opportunity to scratch my wheels (they already gave me one small scratch).

Here are some more pictures. I'm not worried about snow build up here in Atlanta :) I don't think it'd be a huge problem though, still a good bit of clearance.

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#13 ·
Not really interested in the lift now. If, in the future, someone comes out with a 0.5" leveling puck I may consider it. Just don't want to deviate from stock too much. I'm happy with it as it is now.

Those where the exact tires I was looking at since I personally think the Firestones are loud, and cant be balanced by my dealership to save their lives. I freakin hate them. Thanks for being the test mule! What pressure are you running them at?
Interesting that they can't balance the Firestones, mine were like glass from the factory. The dealers/tire stores like to blame the tires, I blame the people. The Michelins are horribly unbalanced (not really, but I'm very picky) at the moment. Stay tuned though, I'm convinced the shop just did a crappy job. I saw them hammering weights on the inner rim yet they left the OEM sticky weights inside the barrel. So they balanced the new tires with the old weights on the rims, wtf??? I think at this point in my life, if I ever see someone do something right the first time I'll faint in disbelief.

Right now they set them to the stock pressure of 35 (34?) psi. I think it's too low, I'm going to raise them to 37-38 and see how I like it. They're a tiny tiny bit splashy at the moment, but nothing terrible. It's hard to compare though as I just came from driving a car that handled pretty well. I will hopefully get them balanced correctly this evening. I'll report back.
 
#14 ·
You may want to take it to the Honda dealer and get them balanced correctly (road force?). I don't know about Honda dealers because I just bought mine, but Toyota always uses Hunter machines with Roadforce balancing and they were perfect every time I put a new set on. Plus they're less likely to destroy your rims.
 
#17 ·
An update for anyone interested...

I got the tires road forced balance and they are good to go, smooth as silk. They had to remount two of them and index them with the wheels since the tires were slightly out of round. I had my Lexus dealer do the work since I take my wife's car there and they're as careful as these places get. Guess what, still scratched my wheels. It's on the inside of the rim but I noticed it immediately. They used a rubber abrasive bit on a drill to remove the previous weight adhesive and the shroud from the bit contacted the rim. They offered to have them fixed, I told them I'd take them off when I got time and see how they look when I buff them. The best way to deal with scratches from these idiots is just to not look closely at your wheels :)

FYI, I run the tires at 37psi cold. They're super comfortable at the stock 35 but just a little splashy for my tastes. 37 is still a great ride (stock like) but handles better. One thing that really impressed me is how well they do in water. I was trying to get them to hydroplane in large puddles and it was difficult. All around they're excellent, quiet, comfortable, grippy. I highly recommend these tires.
 
#18 ·
Keep in mind you are about 1 inch in diameter greater than the stock tire. This translates to your speedometer indicating 2-1/4 mph slower than your actual speed at 65mph.
 
#19 ·
A lot of stock speedometers aren't accurate anyways and often are set to show faster than actual to cover the manufacturers.

I should GPS mine one of these days just to see what's doin. Also running 265s.
 
#23 ·
The newer vehicles are pretty much dead on nowadays. The RL registers 1 km/hr faster than actual which seems to be consistant on most newer cars. My guess is you will see close to 2 mph faster than registered. On another note I do compare speedometer speeds every time I install new tires even in the same size as differences can be found there. My winter wheels turned out to register the same as the summer wheels on the RL.

I even went as far as correcting my wife's speedometer by selecting the new tires to suit diameter wise to make the correction. The speedometer on her Nissan was showing about 3 km/hr faster. I used a chart similar to this Speedometer Calibration / Tire Size Change Calculator to select the speed I wanted to register. Actually got it right on the money after the adjustment.
 
#25 ·
If anyone is wondering, at 65mph I have 3 different GPS apps showing 67mph, so pretty much dead nuts with what tire size calculator said the difference would be.

Regarding the gas mileage calculations, I add 3% to the miles traveled between fill ups when I calculate it. The result is within a 0.2-0.3 of the dashboard readout. I'm probably going to go to the dealer and have them re-calibrate the speedo, but it's not high on my list as 3% isn't making me lose sleep at night. Does anyone have experience with getting this done? I plan on running these size tires for the life of the truck.
 
#26 ·
Oh and I'm getting 21-22mpg in mixed driving, probably 65-70% highway. FYI, I am in no way trying to get good mileage right now. I probably drive between 80-85 on average. I'm not a complete lead foot but I'm running the motor through its RPM range since it's new. For comparison, I used to average 28-30mpg in my 2015 Accord Sport 6 speed, one day I got a flat and put the donut on and kept it under 65 on my commute home, I got 40mpg then. So, I don't come close to maximizing the mileage of a vehicle.
 
#28 ·
Odometer error won't make any difference at all to the vehicle (unless it is like, greater than 10% off, then it might start to impact maintenance).

Where odometer error makes a significant difference is in warranty limits, and in peoples' perceptions. Warranty-wise, there probably isn't all that many warranty claims that are butting right up against the deadline. Perception-wise, if a person bought a vehicle showing 90k miles and found out after-the-fact that it actually had 100k miles, they can be pretty upset (even though, again, it doesn't make a significant difference to the vehicle itself).

Said another way, there are cars out there with 120k highway miles that are in much better shape than cars with 30k city miles. A much better way to find the true age of a car is to look at hours on the clock, along with mileage.

Low mileage + low hours = excellent

High mileage + low hours = good

Low mileage + high hours = ok

High mileage + high hours = bad

Unfortunately, "hours" is not a metric that is readily available on consumer vehicles (although practically standard in the commercial industry, where it truly matters wrt the bottom line). I'll have to check my Torque Pro app next time to see if it's available via OBDII....
 
#32 · (Edited)
Im getting these tires, cant wait... however im getting them on 17" rims as soon as the snow melts! 245/70/17

speed rating i just noticed is only 106 MPH at the 17" rim size..... not sure if my local shop would be able to do it?
 
#33 ·
Yeah I am probably going to end up with the Defenders in 265-60-18. I want the biggest wheels that do not rub at all. I am also probably not interested in the lift kit, even though I agree it looks nice. I think the bigger wheels make the vehicle look nicer already, and the added .5 inch of clearance or so is going to be nice.

Does a wider tire really do anything for you?
 
#34 ·
wider = less MPG and worse in offroad and wet/snow conditions depending on tread/tire type, im trying to stick with 245 because i think it's better in snow to have narrow tires that can sink in more and get grip and i want to keep my rolling resistance on streets down for better MPG.
 
#35 ·
In Maryland we have an occasional snow storm, usually one or two a year. Sometimes it's a bad one, but they get the roads plowed fairly quickly. I'm wondering how big the trade off would be with going for a 265 over a 245, as in, would it even be noticeable?

I would like to be able to drive through 6 inches of snow without having to worry about getting stuck. I am pretty sure the truck can handle that right now based on what I've seen, assuming the driver knows how to drive.
 
#36 ·
This is the same tire that is replacement for the beloved OEM Michelin All season LTX M/S tires the G1 Ridgeline came with. Sister just got the 3rd set of tires put on 2007 Ridgeline last month. BJ's replaced with new Defender LTX M/S
 
#37 ·
Hey, I was just curious. I noticed that you bought aftermarket tires for your G2 as I did, I got 255/55R18 because I was afraid 265/60R18 would rub or not fit.

What are your experiences with that size tire so far? Do they rub really bad? Also what did you do with your old tires. I can't for the life of me sell them. That size is like rare and or only made for the Ridgeline because everyone is interested until they figure the size. Lol

Thanks in Advance for all the help.
 
#40 ·
Im not getting new tires for a while, just bought a house and waiting till the stock tires are shot 225 seems small, i was planning to go up a little in size.