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ECON button?

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#1 ·
So does anyone know exactly what the Econ button does mechanically, besides allow for a greater swing in temps before turn on AC? What does it do to reduce acceleration? What else? And how much difference does it make? City? Highway?
 
#2 ·
My accord has one. It does two things. It remaps the throttle so it's less sensitive, basically it takes pushing the accelerator more to get the same response as if it was off and it also makes the AC compressor cycle on less often. Some people have noticed it makes the transmission shift earlier but I have not noticed that.

I used it on my drive across Canada and I can honestly say I noticed no difference. I got 6.5L /100km with it on and off. That's my experience with it in a V6 accord anyway.
 
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ECON mode does not improve fuel economy by any measurable amount. If it did, it would default to "on" every time you started the vehicle and its operation would be required during EPA testing.

ECON mode works by encouraging relaxed driving by "dampening" throttle response within a wide band from just off idle to just before wide-open throttle. Although it doesn't make any mechanical changes, it reduces part-throttle response to make the vehicle feel less powerful. When a vehicle feels less powerful, you tend to drive more gently which saves fuel. With ECON off, the vehicle feels more responsive and powerful which encourages quick starts, fast driving, and quick stops which reduces fuel economy.

Technically what happens you turn ECON mode on is:

- The throttle becomes less responsive to accelerator pedal input within a band. However, wide-open throttle is still wide-open throttle.
- The HVAC fan speed is slightly reduced, recirculation mode is used more often, and the cabin temperature is allowed to vary more.
- The cruise control becomes less aggressive - the vehicle will lose more speed going uphill and gain more speed going downhill.

That's it - no magic going on. It's basically a "feel good" button. Many drivers report lower fuel economy by using ECON mode. I notice no difference in my CR-V's fuel economy. I get 33 MPG driving to work every day with it on or off. Personally, I keep ECON mode on for the simple fact that it makes the throttle less "touchy".
 
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Funny how some Gen2 Pilot owners claimed they got worse fuel economy in Econ mode...but then most admitted that it was frustration-related. They would push the throttle and not get enough response so they often over-compensated by pushing much harder ("GO, dammit, GO!"). Eventually they just quit using the Econ button. Some Piloteers who bought VCM Muzzlers said they did the same thing when they felt VCM shutting down cylinders -- they'd push the engine harder and get lower fuel economy before they installed the Muzzler and unshackled their engines.
 
#14 ·
Our school buses have an ECON switch on them with the Allison transmissions and what it does is change the shift rpms, lower in econ.
 
#18 ·
Not ever once.

I've had other vehicles with an ECO button and the car usually drives like complete crap with it on.
 
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#24 ·
Always for highway driving.
Better MPG.
 
#26 ·
This almost seems counter productive. Wouldn't you want to use it in stop and go traffic or surface streets with lots of traffic lights? I usually don't have a problem holding a steady throttle on the highway and get great fuel economy.

Like I said earlier, I don't even want to know what the Ridgeline feels like with it on. Maybe if gas goes back up to 4.35 a gallon some day we shall see. ;)
 
#27 ·
The first 2500 miles I rarely used it... But then I thought I wasn't using it enough to get a true feel for it, so I decided intentionally to use it continually for the next 1000 miles. I now have 5000 miles on my G2, and still have it in Econ mode! I like the shift points for City driving, and it seems less likely to downshift when using cruise control! :wink: ... both of those are IMO, win-win. Combining those two Econ benefits with an approx 1.5-2 mpg gain makes it's use a no-brainer for my daily driving habits 0:) ... Naturally, I'll disengage it if towing, etc.
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#33 ·
My gas mileage is definitely better with the Econ mode on (as much as 29.5 on highway trips as calculated by me rather than the truck´s computer).

I like the option of being able to activate it when I want as I don´t always need the full acceleration of the motor. Other times and in certain situations, it can be a bit annoying, but then again, I can just deactivate it with the push of a button.

All in all, it´s nice to have the option.
 
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I used it for the first month I had the truck, started to get used to senior citizen responsiveness. I got real disappointed with the MPG in my city stop and go traffic and I averaged around 15.4 to maybe 16.4. So, then one day I was trying to negotiate a difficult busy intersection and nearly got my rear handed to me because I couldn't jump the traffic.

So, I figured, hey my mileage sucks anyway I'll shut it off. Oh boy, it was like I finally got a new truck! Wow it drives normal!! Yeah I was miffed that the vehicle I traded got just about double in MPGs and was more powerful and fun... but fine I will pay the unhappy-tax of more fuel if disengaging the ECO button meant I could have a normal vehicle.

Then to my surprise, I'm getting about 0.5 MPG better without the ECO engaged. I'm getting about a whopping 16.4 to 17 and change. All of these are numbers on the dash. My last refill calculation put me at 17.3 MPG at about 50% city, 40% suburban 10% freeway.

So, I could have practiced brevity and just said, "No", it does suck. And who knows what the mega-brains at Honda are doing with that VCM to toast your engine even earlier... the fuel costs may end up being the cheapest outlay on this overpriced Ranchero.