[Tswiftma]

I have mentioned this before but I get no real response. Here goes .
These tires come with 2021 and 2022 Ridgeline RTL-E are discounted . Now if you need a replacement you may have to buy 2 at a time or all 4 tires to be correct. This will cost 200.00 + per tire. HONDA SHOULD NOT SELL YOU A VEHICLE (TRUCK) THAT TIRES ARE NOT REPLACEABLE. Yes you can look in line pay more money for shipping.
The point is tires are not readily available and Honda should own up to this.....
I don't here many complaints and there should be. Also No tires are not the cheap ones you get with a new car
That was decades ago...
I wish everyone would complain..
You can see Honda is leaving Ridgeline trucks without options you get on other vehicles.. ex. Passenger power seats only go front an back.qhat happened to up and down.
That side marker light that tells you there's a vehicle near you is not Brite enough to get any attention. It should be in the mirrors.
speak up report it to Better business Bureau.
Alans63

Dealers trying to get you to replace 2 or 4 tires when only one has an issue is a scam. I had an Accord with only 5K miles on it and one of the tires got a one inch gouge on the sidewall. The dealer suggested to replace all 4 tires so they "would have the same amount of wear". I replaced none and drove another 50K on the tire with the gouge. In general OEM tires are worse than the many options of replacement tires that you can get. Is this really worth getting upset over?

 

[zroger73]

To summarize what Consumer Reports found when they tested the Firestone Destination LE3:

• All-season tire
• Terrible wet braking
• Very quiet
• Excellent snow traction
• Low rolling resistance
• 60,000 mile tread life

The Michelin Defender LTX M/S which replaced the excellent Michelin LTX M/S that came on the first generation Ridgeline had similar characteristics, but with better wet braking and tread life (80,000 miles).

The highest rated tire they tested was the Continental TerrainContact H/T that had a tested tread life of 95,000 miles. They really liked this tire and had nothing bad to say about it.

 

[longboat]

To summarize what Consumer Reports found when they tested the Firestone Destination LE3:

• All-season tire
• Terrible wet braking
• Very quiet
• Excellent snow traction
• Low rolling resistance
• 60,000 mile tread life

The Michelin Defender LTX M/S which replaced the excellent Michelin LTX M/S that came on the first generation Ridgeline had similar characteristics, but with better wet braking and tread life (80,000 miles).

The highest rated tire they tested was the Continental TerrainContact H/T that had a tested tread life of 95,000 miles. They really liked this tire and had nothing bad to say about it.

Tread life is one of the lower priorities on my list. I'm always concerned that higher tread life might reflect harder rubber compound which could impact braking distances as well as roadholding during spirited driving. I could easily be wrong though.

As i grow older, i value quiet, comfort and low rolling resistance. I tend to swap to winter tires during the winter, so not too concerned with snow traction.

When I was younger, I might've gone for sharp-handling 20-inch tires. I prefer more sidewall now. I would put 15" rims on the Ridgeline if they'd fit - that would give me another 1.5" rubber cushion!

 

[DOC7769]

I think we may be talking about a different tire. Mine are just the updated version of the original tires, highway all season tires. I do not believe they are 3 peak rated but I will check.

I think I was wrong about the 3 peak rating... but not the 70k mile tread life. They feel far better than the LE2's though. and so smooth on the highway. drove ~4k miles on them to utah and back to chicago.

 

[zroger73]

I think I was wrong about the 3 peak rating... but not the 70k mile tread life. They feel far better than the LE2's though. and so smooth on the highway. drove ~4k miles on them to utah and back to chicago.

I find that new tires are always smoother and quieter than worn tires - even when they're the same brand and model.

 

[Alans63]

I think Honda is a little more forgiving than Subaru. I'd shoot for around up to 3% difference in circumference (only because of variance in the iVTM4 / SH-AWD torque-vectoring units [2.7-3.5%]). Likely the difference is higher.

If nervous about that, you can have a tire shop shave the tread on a new tire for you, or ask them if they have "like-new" take-offs.

At any rate, tires are pretty bad for the environment. If you care about that, you should use as much tread as you can without compromising safety.

https://jalopnik.com/emissions-from-tire-wear-are-a-whole-lot-worse-than-we-1849023188

Tks, but the .message I'm sending out is Honda put tires on a New vehicle that are discontinued.
Would you buy a tire that's discontinued...No!!

 

[Alans63]

If the LE3 is wider, what size is it? Why would it not be interchangeable?

The thread life 12/32 , about 1 inch wider , Le2 is less

 

[zroger73]

Tks, but the .message I'm sending out is Honda put tires on a New vehicle that are discontinued.

If Honda is still putting LE2's on Ridgelines, then it's obviously not discontinued - at least for Honda.

The thread life 12/32 , about 1 inch wider , Le2 is less

Where are you getting your information? Tirerack.com says the LE2 and LE3 have the same 10/32" tread depth and 9.8" section width.

https://www.anrdoezrs.net/click-100...e1=yes&autoMake=Honda&autoYear=2022&autoModel=Ridgeline%20AWD&autoModClar=RTL-E

https://www.anrdoezrs.net/click-100...6HR8DLE3&autoMake=Honda&autoYear=2022&autoModel=Ridgeline+AWD&autoModClar=RTL-E

 

[Cbayman]

Check your dealer for tire prices. I had to replace a damaged OE tire on the Pilot earlier this year and was pleasantly surprised - the dealer had the matching tire in stock within a few dollars of the Tire Rack price.

 

[zroger73]

^ Yes.

The last two tires I purchased were OE tires from Honda and Ford dealers...and they had the best price. The Ford dealer had the best price for a battery, too.

 

[ReefHound]

Every hour some poor sap gets a 3-wheeled vehicle.

Or a full size spare!

 

[ncbryan]

IF my RL needed tired right now, I definitely wouldn't put the LE2 tires on it. They are quite a bit louder than the original LE tire. The aggressive side wall must make them louder on the road. When it's time for tires, I will likely look at Bridgestone.

 

[skip4au]

Yes Firestone is producing tires but, Not destination Le2. Now its Le3. With more thread life and is a little wider so it's not interchangeable.....
Point is Selling vehicles with discontinued tires will cause you to buy 2 tires at a time if one is damaged. There's no warranty cant just go and buy a new one. Not readily available

I replace my LE2 with LE3. Love them and have no problems

 

[zroger73]

I didn't notice any difference in noise level between the LE2 tires on my 2017 and 2019 and the LE2 tires with simulated tread on my 2021.

 

[Prelude17]

I've never once replaced OEM tires with OEM tires on any vehicle I've ever owned. I've also never changed only two tires except on my few cars which were beaters and had two tires replaced out of sync before I bought it.

I could have written your post! Same situation here. Makes me wonder what brands of tires other Ridgeline owners have chosen over OEM. Anybody care to comment?

 

[DOC7769]

kuhmo venture AT52... very very nice tires on road and off

 

[mel062369]

Trade the vehicle in for one that comes with a lifetime warranty for the original tires that came with it. Either that or buy a supply of tires for the vehicle when you take delivery.

 

[ferrari1898]

In reality, that's not nearly as critical as some people believe.

A new Firestone Destination LE2 tire for the Ridgeline starts with 11/32" of tread and has a diameter of 29.6".

At the end of the tire's service life (2/32" tread remaining), it has a diameter of 29.0375".

The different in rotational speed between a brand new tire and a completely worn tire is 2% - that's less than the 2.7% constant slip between the Ridgeline's front and rear axles due to iVTM-4's overdrive.

The real danger occurs when you use a mix of tire sizes that have a significantly different diameter.

Honda's official recommendation is that you replace all four tires on the Ridgeline at the same time, but it's also acceptable to replace only the front or rear tires in pairs. Unofficially, neither you nor the vehicle will know the difference if you replace only one tire as long as the sizes match.

Where mixing new and worn tires can become more of an issue is on small diameter tires (think back to the days of 12-13" wheels) or on "mud tires" that have 1" to 1.5" deep tread in which case the difference in diameter between a new and worn tire is significantly greater.

There are many heated discussions on Subaru Forums on the topic of replacing a single tire. I forget what the tolerance is but as mentioned, the difference is a new versus bald tire is not significant. Additionally as a set is close to needing to be replaced; a failure is merely advancing the inevitable. I have yet to encounter this issue except with my wife's 2wd that had damage on the sidewall from a carb (2 tires). The thing was the thread was already down to like 5/32 so changing the set was planned later in the year already. I would argue even if the size is the same and the tread is slightly different; the computers will not detect the difference; however the closer to the others (similar tread, rubber, etc) the better.

 

[Alans63]

I've seen you post this before. What exactly are you complaining about here ? Why aren't the tires not replaceable ? I mean Firestone is still producing tires and Honda is still installing them. What's not available ?

I'm sorry my concern was you can't go to Firestone to buy Destination Le2 tires .there no longer sold. Le3 took its place and there different specs, width,thread,

 

[zroger73]

TireRack.com has LE2s in stock ready for delivery to me tomorrow.