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Three-Row SUV Comparison: Honda Pilot Comes In Last

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I'm still purchasing my 2024 Honda Pilot Elite next month. I have watched a good number of reviews. Alex On Autos Raties Rides.
Savagegeese 2023 Honda Pilot How To Fix Forgettable Suvs. I think best
Autolist.com says Pilot can Turn on a Dime for it's size. Vehicle Visionary has plenty reviews
The Pilot in my opinion looks the best exterior wise. Many ding the Pilot for having small infotainment screen 9 inch in Elite trim.
Some reviews say Honda Prioritized Driving Dynamics over interior goodies like KIA and Hyundai. So Pilot strikes a good balance.
Ive seen other comparison reviews where KIA or Hyundai had features the Pilot didn't.
Then you scratch your head The Pilot had features the others should have had.
People keep saying pay extra for MDX that's a large chunk of money from Pilot Elite.
But It's a Pilot review 12inches from greatness.
Some reviews praise Pilots handling over Palisade and Telluride. The Pilot was more fun they said.
This is the first Pilot exterior that I love.
The 3rd Gen I'm okay with but I never liked 2nd Gen Box. It reminded me of my early 1990s big GE Profile Refrigerator Freezer.
So many really ding the Pilot for small infotainment screen. They also ding it for fuel mileage no hybrid offered.


I posted awhile ago Pilot Elite was poor man's Acura MDX. The Elite has more than a few features they don't have on Touring.
The Elite and TrailSport have Heated power steering wheel. I guess you could get it as accessory added like you could on Ridgeline.
The Elite has power folding mirrors that fold and unfold with locking unlocking. Touring doesn't have. I the one of Korean twins didn't have. Pilot Elite offers Auto Dimming Sideview mirrors. The rear door handle touch handle locking. At least one Korean twin SUV didn't have that.
The MDX doesn't have rear 3rd row Air Vents. The Savagegeese review they be whipping that Pilot.
 
Pilot and Ridgeline require high-test for towing. So if you’re someone who does tow regularly, you end up using hi-test exclusively because you never know when your next tow might be. Around here hi-test is +$1 over regular unleaded. It’s painful - - diesel is significantly less.
If you buy MDX you would use Premium fuel.
I use Premium fuel in my 2000 Acura 3.2TL.
All the Acura vehicles recommend Premium.
When I get Pilot I will still use Shell Gas mostly Premium or mix with other Top Teir lower octane.
Thursday they offer Premium for less.
I will also use Idle Stop-Start really don't know problem people have with it.
I just moved out of metropolitan city that I lived all my life. The past few years been using a number of Uber/Lyft rides. Most of the drivers in these vehicles seem to be using feature.
 
I've been a subscriber to Car and Driver now for nearly 40 years. I finally read the 3 row test a couple of days ago and it's pure CD. Given that the point spread between the 4 different SUV's was very small and that CD is all about power/performance, small wonder it came in last. Would the comparison sway me away from the new Pilot? No. The new engine and transmission combo would though. I'd check back in a couple of years, after the standard Honda teething issues get smoothed out.
So have I been a subscriber back with my 1st car a 1980 Honda Prelude.
 
Quality aside, the new Pilot is the most boring offering on the class. The rear styling in particular seems completely phoned in.

Not saying it has to be interesting to be successful, but it's a shame. To out-snooze Toyota is a dubious honor.
But that's why I also looked at Savagegeese How To Fix Forgettable Suvs Pilot review.
Obviously they see the Pilot differently compared to other's.
Also the Toyota mechanic Guy gave his review of Pilot.
 
How did Youtube reviews change the vehicle? I’m not sure I’d notice a 2024 Pilot if it crashed into me. The Koreans do plenty wrong, but at least they take some chances with their styling.

It won’t matter too much in the sales charts. Most of these are destined to live lives of curbed wheels, Lululemon tainted sweat stains and regurgitated goldfish crackers. No compelling reason for it to be anything but what it is.

The Ridgeline is not exactly a stunner either, so it runs in the family.
I see plenty of Generation 1 Pilot's still running around. Plenty of Gen 2 Pilot boxes all around. KIA and Hyundai came out with a lot of vehicles with fresh styling.
Then that style fades and you don't see many on the road or streets. When you do see one it looks odd in style.
However that old Honda and Acura with its less flashy looks at age still looks good.
 
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Mostly, interior water leaks. Lots of SRS warning messages. More 10-speed transmission problems than I recall from previous models that used the 10-speed (of note, the 2023 Pilot uses a "second generation" 10-speed).
Mostly, interior water leaks. Lots of SRS warning messages. More 10-speed transmission problems than I recall from previous models that used the 10-speed (of note, the 2023 Pilot uses a "second generation" 10-speed).
Well I'm getting close to taking that leap into a 2024 Pilot Elite. It has all the features I want. The front heated and ventilated seats. The IVTM4 AWD, Bose 70. Audio System I can live with. Heads-Up Display and Rear Outboard heated seats I'll take. The Heated steering wheel I wanted.
The Brake Hold feature with Electronic Parking Brake I wanted. The upgraded digital instrument gauge cluster.
The power folding mirrors I wanted and need more now. The Multi-View Camera System or TrailWatch 360 Camera System.
My 2000 Acura 3.2 TL will be 24yrs old at Christmas. It has low mileage for its age.
The Ridgeline is Sisters but I was the primary driver the first 2 and half years when new. I was the one that picked it out. I had it serviced over the years.
In February 2024 the Ridgeline will be 17yrs old. It has over 227,000miles. She's getting r a ady to take long trip next week.
In the past few weeks new set of tires put on.
All fluids except brake,power steering done last week. Also new spark plugs done air filter.
New Radiator was done last year.
Belt was squealing they put on new serpentine belt and tensioner.
So about 1500 miles next few weeks.
But for me it's time for new modern vehicle.
So 2024 Pilot Elite instead of Ridgeline.
With 2007 still running just don't need 2nd Pickup Truck. If it's not fixable at later time sisters getting smaller vehicle.
So waiting and wishing on new Ridgeline redesign has led me to Pilot Elite.
 
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