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We’re considering buying a used 22 ft trailer that weighs unloaded 4467lbs and 570 tongue weight
the 2 of us travel light and always drain our tanks before we travel.
we have the 2018 RTL E
sound safe?
thanks for the advice
c
You may be under the limits but very close to max. Adding gear (clothes, kitchen items, chairs...) may put you over. If it comes with an original mattress and you replace it with something good then that will also add to the weight. I have a 3850 GVWR trailer I wouldn't want to go any heavier. My trailer calculations below. The truck rides nice and has enough power for acceleration. Braking is good with trailer brakes. At cruise it tends to shift gears frequently. Initially I was cruising on the highway at 65-67mph and it would constantly downshift. MPG was about 10-11. I lowered my speed to 55-60 and that made a huge difference. Much less shifting, lower rpm, and higher mpg. Add about 10 minutes per hour of driving but that's okay with me. Ridgeline manual recommends 55mph max. I guess it's in there for a reason.
Good luck.

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IF light weight and dual axles are the primary criteria for a full-height RV trailer, these are worthy of consideration, IMO:
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Those look cool, thanks for posting.

We've had a Class C RV in the past, with an E350 chassis, and loved it, but the downside of such a rig is that once you've set-up camp, to e.g. go out to dinner or something is a huge PIA. So I'm thinking our future holds some kind of trailer set-up, to be able to disconnect and go-out or sightsee with our tow vehicle.

Does anyone here know if there are any small i.e. above Escape size trailers that have a 5th wheel type of tow method? Maybe a dumb question but it seems to me that to locate the pivot-point in the middle of a truck bed is much more stable?
 
Does anyone here know if there are any small i.e. above Escape size trailers that have a 5th wheel type of tow method? Maybe a dumb question but it seems to me that to locate the pivot-point in the middle of a truck bed is much more stable?
Maybe you missed the link to my current trailer farther down in that post, a 21ft 5th wheel Escape 5.0 - Escape Trailer. I tow with a 2005 F150 (have a 2022 F150 on order), the rig handles like a dream and is simply wonderful for ease of hitching / unhitching (I'm a solo traveler). Some pics of that rig are here https://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/threads/f150-boomerang.222154/post-3203898

The only other (very) small 'fiver' I'm aware of is the Scamp Lite Fifth Wheel RV Travel Trailers - 5th Wheel Campers - Deluxe Layout A - Scamp Trailers. Though molded fiberglass it is not a 'fully enclosed' fiberglass shell and is, IMO, nowhere near the build-quality of the ETI offerings.

The Ridgeline is not suitable for any 'fiver' IMO, notwithstanding several adventurous folks having undertaken extensive mods to make it purportedly 'physically possible' (I won't even provide links to those very rare examples of radically modified and decidedly Honda-un-authorized rigs).
 
We’re considering buying a used 22 ft trailer that weighs unloaded 4467lbs and 570 tongue weight
the 2 of us travel light and always drain our tanks before we travel.
we have the 2018 RTL E
sound safe?
thanks for the advice
c
I have a 2019 Honda Ridgeline RTL towing a 20ft. KZ Spree Escape travel trailer with the following specs:
Dry Weight: 3,530 lbs.
Payload Capacity: 970 lbs.
GVWR: 4,500 lbs.
Hitch Weight: 370 lbs.
When you factor in the trailer’s wind resistance plus any extra gear, my feeling is that I’m pretty much maxed-out. I tow in the “D4” transmission mode.
Hope this helps.
 
a brake assist system which will help and save your pads and rotors
Not sure what you mean by brake assist system - perhaps trailer brakes?

Any travel trailer will have electric trailer brakes, and the Ridgeline is wired for trailer brakes - but you'll need to purchase and install an aftermarket trailer brake controller (TBC). You will want the "proportional" kind (not time delay). Proportional is better because it has accelerometer which detects your vehicles braking/deceleration rate, and sends a proportional braking amount to the trailer brakes.
TBC is absolutely required for a travel trailer. I would not recommend towing any trailer over 1000 lbs without it.
Brands like Tekonsha, Redarc, or Curt have all been used by members here with good results.
 
We’re considering buying a used 22 ft trailer that weighs unloaded 4467lbs and 570 tongue weight
the 2 of us travel light and always drain our tanks before we travel.
we have the 2018 RTL E
sound safe?
thanks for the advice
c
I think you'll have a problem. I tow a 19' trailer, loaded for travel at around 4300lbs (3700lbs empty). My Ridgeline is a 2018, 6 speed RTL. My transmission temps became a problem towing in the mountains and I added a larger, aftermarket tranny cooler to help with the heat issue. My wife and I are relatively small people. We do carry a small generator, but IMO, we travel light. Our GCWR was within 400 lbs of the Ridgeline's max rating. I think you're really pushing the safety envelope with the 22' trailer you describe. I'm not really even comfortable with my lighter trailer and wish I had a more robust tow vehicle.
 
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Thanks to everyone who contributed to this discussion. We decided to find a lighter trailer and will try to find the Escape mentioned. When I think of Escape trailers I think of the fibreglass models and are lightweight ands super well made. Not the ones that others linked to above.
Our last trailer was a variation of the escape made by Casita and it towed very easily, just too small for us.
Best of everything and stay safeQ.
c
 
I think you'll have a problem. I tow a 19' trailer, loaded for travel at around 4300lbs (3700lbs empty). My Ridgeline is a 2018, 6 speed RTL. My transmission temps became a problem towing in the mountains and I added a larger, aftermarket tranny cooler to help with the heat issue. My wife and I are relatively small people. We do carry a small generator, but IMO, we travel light. Our GCWR was within 400 lbs of the Ridgeline's max rating. I think you're really pushing the safety envelope with the 22' trailer you describe. I'm not really even comfortable with my lighter trailer and wish I had a more robust tow vehicle.
having towed my almost 23' trailer at likely around 4500lbs loaded, i felt pretty comfortable. I think having the 9speed makes a big difference. I don't think the RL is capable of a dual axle trailer, while I've seen people do it, I would personably be hesitant. The huge downside is the fuel tank size on our trucks. I could only get about 180-200miles on a full tank.
 
Maybe you missed the link to my current trailer farther down in that post, a 21ft 5th wheel Escape 5.0 - Escape Trailer. I tow with a 2005 F150 (have a 2022 F150 on order), the rig handles like a dream and is simply wonderful for ease of hitching / unhitching (I'm a solo traveler). Some pics of that rig are here https://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/threads/f150-boomerang.222154/post-3203898

The only other (very) small 'fiver' I'm aware of is the Scamp Lite Fifth Wheel RV Travel Trailers - 5th Wheel Campers - Deluxe Layout A - Scamp Trailers. Though molded fiberglass it is not a 'fully enclosed' fiberglass shell and is, IMO, nowhere near the build-quality of the ETI offerings.

The Ridgeline is not suitable for any 'fiver' IMO, notwithstanding several adventurous folks having undertaken extensive mods to make it purportedly 'physically possible' (I won't even provide links to those very rare examples of radically modified and decidedly Honda-un-authorized rigs).
Wow many thanks. Yeah, you're right I had only looked at the smallest Escape so missed the 'fiver'. And I've also been of the mindset for quite some time now that our RL is unsuited to such a payload. We have pulled some heavy utility trailers (gravel, soil & such) for some easy miles and that was enough for me.

When our Ridge goes tits-up for whatever reason (we have only 105K miles on it, no rust, awesome ride) we would get next a robust tow vehicle, probably bigger than yours "just because".

P.S. First twelve years of our RTL's life were in Blanco County!
 
Yep, we love our R-Pod RP-196 but I'm convinced it could pull any of the 190 series or less. There is a newer RP-202 which looks nice at 4500 dry, but dual axle and will quickly go over 5000 (GVWR is 6500) - that trailer is just too much for the RL.
Other Forest River trailers similar to R-Pods which might be worth a look are E-Pro, Geo-Pro, No-Bo
Another new label is Ibex. I haven't seen this one in person, but looks interesting:

+1 on the 9-speed being better all around for towing

+1 on gas. You will be looking for gas station every 200 miles, which is just part of the mid-sized pickup compromise. (We did have one "scary" time where we were in west Wyoming, and I forgot to fill up in one town, and it was almost 100 miles to next gas station, and we hit the empty light and got really close to running out of gas in the middle of nowhere.)
 
...The Ridgeline is not suitable for any 'fiver' IMO, notwithstanding several adventurous folks having undertaken extensive mods to make it purportedly 'physically possible' (I won't even provide links to those very rare examples of radically modified and decidedly Honda-un-authorized rigs).
Why not CentexG2? Please educate me.

I just watched a video on the Escape and it looks friggin' awesome.
 
So your plan is to mount a 5th wheel in the bed of Ridgeline? Not sure how you do that and be safe...let us know how it works out.
Not sure how you determined I had a plan? I asked a question. Do you have an answer?

Ok I surfed on it and see that the Ridgeline's composite bed does not have within-or-beneath it the structure to bolt a 5th wheel receiver to. I stopped looking--are there other reasons or is that the killer.
 
Not sure how you determined I had a plan? I asked a question. Do you have an answer?

Ok I surfed on it and see that the Ridgeline's composite bed does not have within-or-beneath it the structure to bolt a 5th wheel receiver to. I stopped looking--are there other reasons or is that the killer.
I do not. Based on what I know of the way the bed is constructed it would be very difficult and more than likely unsafe.
 
I found a good discussion of the multiple issues:


It seems like some folks have made it work with the right (small) 5th wheel. For us, just taking-out the in-bed trunk would probably be enough to discourage us.
 
The Ridgeline is not suitable for any 'fiver' IMO, notwithstanding several adventurous folks having undertaken extensive mods to make it purportedly 'physically possible' (I won't even provide links to those very rare examples of radically modified and decidedly Honda-un-authorized rigs).
Why not CentexG2? Please educate me.
Simply my opinion based on knowledge of the structure of the RL, my own personal judgement about prudent limits of modification, and 'forcing a shoe on a foot it was never intended to fit'.

YMMV but this is one that I won't give my traditional "good luck" blessing, I'll just hope I never share the highway with such a bastardization if it comes to be.

Please change your forum settings to allow PM's if you want to pursue discussion about the 5.0 Escape and why I think a 150/1500 (vs 250/2500) series truck is the most appropriate tow vehicle for that trailer. I'll be glad to discuss that if you like but this thread originally about bumper-pull towing isn't the place to continue 'fiver' discussions, IMO (with apology for my part in the thread hijack).
 
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