[MtMan]

TSB A19-045 For the 2019 Ridgeline so far:

During production, a supplier produced some timing belts that do not meet specification. These timing belts may shred
or slip, causing the cam shafts to fall out of timing. Camshafts that are out of timing will set DTC P0341: CMP Sensor
and CKP Sensor Incorrect Phase Detected and/or DTC P0369: CMP Sensor Circuit Intermittent Interruption and the
engine will run rough. Additionally, shredded timing belts may cause the vehicle to stall and not be able to restart, which
increases the risk of a crash.

View attachment A19-045r1.pdf

 

[njamesj]

Holy crap. May never start again if the pistons hit the valves.

 

[cmoschip]

Holy crap. May never start again if the pistons hit the valves.

From the language of that bulletin my assumption is that the 3.5 is a non-interference engine - do you know if that is incorrect?


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[Farther]

And here I am planning a cross country road trip. I wish they would give a range of VINs that this applies.

 

[CentexG2]

From the language of that bulletin my assumption is that the 3.5 is a non-interference engine - do you know if that is incorrect?

You may not have read far enough - see Step 19 on page 22 of 27 in the service procedure part of the bulletin linked in post 1:

".....
The following steps will determine if there was any valve to piston contact requiring the replacement of the cylinder block and one or both cylinder heads.
...."

Given that, methinks your assumption is incorrect :surprise:

 

[Lokim4]

Ugh, well might have been a good thing I waited on the fuel tank cap recall...

 

[CentexG2]

And here I am planning a cross country road trip. I wish they would give a range of VINs that this applies.

Yeah, a bummer that the procedure requires removal of the timing belt cover to read number codes on the belt to determine applicability.

Makes me think the factory inventory tracking system didn't provide absolute correlation of the bad belt-batch to VIN unfortunately (?)

:frown:

 

[Massivec]

Lol. Just great.... So now what. Bring it in they determine the timing belt that's in it?

 

[rigeman]

That's what it sounds like.....

 

[CentexG2]

One more thing for we '2019 prospective purchasers' to verify prior to taking delivery (doesn't appear to be in the NHTSA formal safety recall system as of this date).

Interesting that the linked bulletin doesn't mention an "immediate dealer delivery hold" pending verification of in-stock vehicles. I'm used to seeing such in similar circumstance with Ford, even prior to final NHTSA recall status being formalized.

@MtMan , Thanks for posting!

 

[Roy Ridges]

TSB A19-045 For the 2019 Ridgeline so far:

During production, a supplier produced some timing belts that do not meet specification. These timing belts may shred
or slip, causing the cam shafts to fall out of timing.

Could this timing belt have been used on other years (i.e. the same part #)?
I'm thinking of @iko that was in the process of replacing the timing belt on his the last time I saw him.

 

[CentexG2]

Could this timing belt have been used on other years (i.e. the same part #)?

Note that as is often the case with such matters, the problem does not affect all of a given part number, it is limited to a specific batch of vendor parts having that PN, more narrowly identified by what is essentially unique individual component 'serial numbers'.

 

[cmoschip]

You may not have read far enough - see Step 19 on page 22 of 27 in the service procedure part of the bulletin linked in post 1:

".....
The following steps will determine if there was any valve to piston contact requiring the replacement of the cylinder block and one or both cylinder heads.
...."

Given that, methinks your assumption is incorrect :surprise:

I confess I didn’t read the attachment - on,y your text!


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[Farther]

Interesting, I made an appointment online with my local dealer today after reading this thread and I already got a call back stating that my VIN was not part of the recall. I appreciate the prompt service and hope the guy is correct.

Interesting that the linked bulletin doesn't mention an "immediate dealer delivery hold" pending verification of in-stock vehicles.

I think it does on the first page:

"Some vehicles affected by this campaign may be in your new or used vehicle inventory. Failure to repair a vehicle subject to a recall or campaign may subject your dealership to claims or lawsuits from the customer or anyone else harmed as a result of such failure. To see if a vehicle in inventory is affected by this safety recall, do a VIN status inquiry before selling it."

 

[onerailunder]

Ugggh, massive PITA for a new car owner....

 

[zroger73]

WARNING: Childish temper tantrum coming...

I should be glad that Honda is voluntarily recalling potentially affected vehicles. Instead, I'm getting really tired of this crap.

Historically, Honda had the advantage in:

1. Build quality - High quality materials were precisely assembled. The vehicles were tight with few squeaks and rattles. That advantage has mostly disappeared. In this regards, Hondas are no longer the best or even average.

2. Efficiency - This advantage has also disappeared as other manufacturers have matched or exceeded Honda's fuel economy.

3. Reliability - My earlier Hondas completely avoided the service department. The last few have needed as many or more dealer visits for TSB's and recalls than my Ford and GM friends and family members.

4. Resale value - This is about the last reason left to buy a Honda, but this, too, is at risk of disappearing as 1-3 fade away. While resale value is still good for Honda, buyers also pay more up front for this privilege.

This changing landscape of Honda has been testing my brand loyalty recently. I've never been more receptive to other brands than I am right now. I want to love Honda, but I'm finding it increasingly difficult to remain loyal to the brand as the advantages continue to disappear.

An automotive journalist friend of mine who is well aware of all the reasons not to buy an FCA vehicle recently bought a new 300...on purpose! Sure - resale value will be junk and it'll probably spend plenty of time in the service department, but it was CHEAP, has a nice, quiet ride, handles decently, sounds great, and has one of the best infotainment systems in the industry.

 

[Lunasdad]

My first Honda is the Ridgeline I bought a month and a half ago. If one of these faulty timing belts is in my vehicle, will I be able to count on someone from the dealership reaching out to me and scheduling an appointment to fix it?

 

[jimbosr1]

This is what happens when you buy parts from a guy that knows a guy.....

 

[Carsmak]

Could this timing belt have been used on other years (i.e. the same part #)?
I'm thinking of @iko that was in the process of replacing the timing belt on his the last time I saw him.

Note that as is often the case with such matters, the problem does not affect all of a given part number, it is limited to a specific batch of vendor parts having that PN, more narrowly identified by what is essentially unique individual component 'serial numbers'.

Highly doubtful, although both are 3.5l engines, @iko has an early G1 ‘07, this is specifically for ‘19s.

 

[CentexG2]

Interesting, I made an appointment online with my local dealer today after reading this thread and I already got a call back stating that my VIN was not part of the recall. I appreciate the prompt service and hope the guy is correct.

That's great, congrats! Maybe an affected VIN list will go public with the formal NHTSA listing?

... I think it does on the first page:

"Some vehicles affected by this campaign may be in your new or used vehicle inventory. Failure to repair a vehicle subject to a recall or campaign may subject your dealership to claims or lawsuits from the customer or anyone else harmed as a result of such failure. To see if a vehicle in inventory is affected by this safety recall, do a VIN status inquiry before selling it."

Yep, I missed that, thank you!