well i hope so. More horespower is really all the ridgeline needs. I would also take the diesel. Come on honda. Hurry up.

 

well i hope so. More horespower is really all the ridgeline needs. I would also take the diesel. Come on honda. Hurry up.

I too am hoping for a turbo diesel. For now I am adding my own horsepower. K&N filter performance kit this week. I have a three year lease and unless they come out with a diesel after that I will probably buy it out and keep it until there is a new model, or more importantly that diesel.

 

It is probably going to get whatever the MDX is getting later on this year. Pro bably something similiar, but not exactly the same.

-S

 

It is probably going to get whatever the MDX is getting later on this year. Pro bably something similiar, but not exactly the same.

-S

I have read the MDX will be upgraded to a 3.7 liter from the current 3.5. This enhancement on the Ridgeline will prompt some used Ridgelines to hit the market next year. Mine will probably be one of them. More power and the same mileage- why not??

 

I wouldn't trade up for 40 more horses and 200 cc's of displacement. For the hit I would take on the trade in and the extra money I would have to spend on what would then be a $35,000 truck, I would much rather spend my money on a supercharger and have close to a 400 hp RL. I'm betting that is what the Comptech kit will put out. My only concern would be blowing up the tranny. I think the RL would most likely soak up the power by transferring any wheelspin to the back wheels. That my friends will be one fast Ridgeline.

BTW, has anyone heard about a turbo for the RL? There is a guy on my old Accord forum making 409 horsepower from a 2.0 liter 3rd gen Accord with a resleeved 1.8 Integra GSR block. He claims that he expects close to 500 hp with larger injectors and a little more boost. Surely someone could make an add on small turbo kit that would yield another 100 ponies without much ado.

How about a specialized Nitrous kit? For a couple of hundred bucks, we could be at the 300 hp mark with a little 50 shot kit in a pinch.

 

I wouldn't trade up for 40 more horses and 200 cc's of displacement. For the hit I would take on the trade in and the extra money I would have to spend on what would then be a $35,000 truck, I would much rather spend my money on a supercharger and have close to a 400 hp RL. I'm betting that is what the Comptech kit will put out. My only concern would be blowing up the tranny. I think the RL would most likely soak up the power by transferring any wheelspin to the back wheels. That my friends will be one fast Ridgeline.

BTW, has anyone heard about a turbo for the RL? There is a guy on my old Accord forum making 409 horsepower from a 2.0 liter 3rd gen Accord with a resleeved 1.8 Integra GSR block. He claims that he expects close to 500 hp with larger injectors and a little more boost. Surely someone could make an add on small turbo kit that would yield another 100 ponies without much ado.

How about a specialized Nitrous kit? For a couple of hundred bucks, we could be at the 300 hp mark with a little 50 shot kit in a pinch.

I think a turbo would be great. There is a company called STS (squire turbo systems???) they make remote turbos that mount farther down the exhaust.
http://www.ststurbo.com/

I think that would be a the way to go. Let's start sending them e-mails

 

cismo,

Honda really needs to consider coming out with a diesel engine for the Ridgeline in 2008.
You know it's coming.
I read on one of their web pages that they are currently working on a Honda diesel engine.
I think that they would sell many more Ridgelines if they had an optional diesel engine.
I for one would pay $5,000 more for a Ridgeline that had it.

truckfan

 

I for one would pay $5,000 more for a Ridgeline that had it.

What's the main thing you're looking for in a diesel, truckfan? Is it just the low end grunt that the diesel provides? $5,000 extra for a diesel engine is going to take more than 10 years to recoup in terms of fuel efficiency for the average annual mileage.

 

Lingered...I,

I'm looking for the low end, the MPG, the increased towing capacity, the 250,000+ miles, etc.

I recently drove a car with a diesel engine while on a 2 week vacation in Ireland.
It didn't sound or smell like a diesel.
It got better MPG than I expected.

Diesels seem to be the norm in Europe and I think we are going to see many more diesels here in the US.
Ford, Dodge, & Chrysler are all currently working on cars which in the near future will have diesel engines.

Yes diesel engines cost more, but for some people including me who tow, drive lots of miles, need low end, etc. the additional cost makes sense.
I agree that diesels aren't for everyone, but they should be an option.

Honda is currently working on a diesel engine for the US (probably to meet California requirements).
Will they put one in the Ridgeline?
Yes!
When?
Hopefully in 2008.

I look forward to buying a diesel Ridgeline when they are released (and you know they are definitely coming) even if it costs me more money, as the diesel engine will better meet my needs.

truckfan

 

There are several reasons why they are more Demand, crazy gas prices and higher quality diesel fuel. Howver, we are getting Also now that they have developed the variable pitch turbos power will continue to get better. Now unheard of to get 700+ horsepower and 1200+ ft.lbs. of torque out of a fullsize diesel without modifying internals.

 

The most misunderstood reason not to get a diesel:

It cost so much more than a gas engine and takes 100k miles to pay for itself.

True up front, but you will save money in fuel while owning it, and you will get that difference back when you sell it. If you look up a used trucks value, you will see that the diesel version resales much more than a gas. About as much as the differance you paid for the diesel over the gas when you bought it.

When it comes down to it, a diesel is best, unless you just personally dont like diesels. They have shown that they are also more environmentally friendly than gas because of emissions.

Robert

 

The only diesel engine Honda has in its arsenal right now is the 2.2L 4-cylinder iCTD-i. It's a jewel of an engine, but Honda has already publicly stated that the Ridgeline (and others) are too big for a 4 cylinder. If they do in fact plan to market a diesel Ridgeline I'd expect at least a 3 year lead time before we see it.

 

Honda has a V-6 diesel that has been in development for nearly 18 months. It will be in the MDX in about two years (Odyssey gets it second, but right now the Ridgeline is not supposed to get this engine at all). The engine is designed for passenger car use and is not a heavy duty diesel type engine (200,000 mile MTBF).

It sports instant heat glow grids (no wait to start light), high pressure common rail direct/pilot injection. Aluminum alloy block and heads. Most will not be able to tell that it's really a diesel engine.

On the negative side of things this will be an EGR engine with an exhaust gas particulate filter and three way catalyst. I've never seen a good implementation of either technology.

Approx. 25% fuel mileage improvement over the current gasoline engine.

 

Interested in more horses but don't want a diesel. Looking forward to see what '08 brings.

 

Honda has a V-6 diesel that has been in development for nearly 18 months. It will be in the MDX in about two years (Odyssey gets it second, but right now the Ridgeline is not supposed to get this engine at all). The engine is designed for passenger car use and is not a heavy duty diesel type engine (200,000 mile MTBF).

It sports instant heat glow grids (no wait to start light), high pressure common rail direct/pilot injection. Aluminum alloy block and heads. Most will not be able to tell that it's really a diesel engine.

On the negative side of things this will be an EGR engine with an exhaust gas particulate filter and three way catalyst. I've never seen a good implementation of either technology.

Approx. 25% fuel mileage improvement over the current gasoline engine.

csimo, since it's being developed for passenger vehicle use, do you think it won't have as steep a "diesel premium" on the sticker? Maybe instead of the aforementioned $5k premium, maybe just a $2k or $3k?

 

csimo, since it's being developed for passenger vehicle use, do you think it won't have as steep a "diesel premium" on the sticker? Maybe instead of the aforementioned $5k premium, maybe just a $2k or $3k?

I've heard nothing regarding how much a diesel engine option will cost. Diesel engines cost more to build and other components have to be beefed up... front suspension, transmission, etc.

If I were to make a wild guess I would say the diesel engine option on the MDX will be a $3500 option. In a couple of years we'll see how accurate my guess is.

I would be happy to pay $3500 - $4000 for a diesel engine option on a Ridgeline. $5000 might make me reconsider how much I want a diesel engine. I just hope Honda decides to give Ridgeline buyers the option.

 

Even if that diesel option cost 5k, you will save fuel and less ozone causing emissions than a gas burner. The kicker is when you sell it, you will prob get most if not all of that 5k back when you sell it.

If you look up diesel vehicles, they resale about the same price higher as they were new.

If I have the extra bucks when a diesel comes out in whatever I am buying, I will gladly pay it.

Robert

 

I've had my RL for 4 months and if a Diesel came out tomorrow i'd trade tomorrow.

 

cismo,

Honda really needs to consider coming out with a diesel engine for the Ridgeline in 2008.
You know it's coming.
I read on one of their web pages that they are currently working on a Honda diesel engine.
I think that they would sell many more Ridgelines if they had an optional diesel engine.
I for one would pay $5,000 more for a Ridgeline that had it.

truckfan

Didn't Honda sign a deal with GM that gave GM the rights to use the Honda 3.5L V6 and Honda got the rights to use the GM Diesle engines?

 

Not likely. Honda is fiercely independent when it comes to engines. They infact consider themselves an engine maker first, vehicles second.

A humorous look at their diesel engine development:

http://www.honda.co.uk/change/

 

Didn't Honda sign a deal with GM that gave GM the rights to use the Honda 3.5L V6 and Honda got the rights to use the GM Diesle engines?

I know that the Saturn Vue has a 3.5L. Is it Honda? I don't know. But why would honda want to use a GM diesel? I'm sure Honda can make their own diesel. Only better

 

Curious to know if anyone at the Ohio National Meet had a chance to talk with Gary and see what light he may have shed on this subject.

We could speculate all day - diesel, hybrid, more horsepower....I know the suspense is killing some of you! In the words of Sheryl Crow 'it's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got..". Go out and enjoy your RL now!!! LOL

Oh, may as well add my .02.........I prefer to see a hybrid because we all know gas prices will not go down to what they were.

 

The earliest that a diesel engine will make its' way into the Ridgeline until at least 2009. The diesel engine that is in development now is too small to be put in the Pilot and Ridgeline. The first models that will feature the diesel engine which is in development now will be the Accord and a crossover vehicle (between two existing models prices). After this, if the sales of the diesel cars goes well, they will develop a larger, more powerful diesel for the pilot and the Ridge.

 

The earliest that a diesel engine will make its' way into the Ridgeline until at least 2009. The diesel engine that is in development now is too small to be put in the Pilot and Ridgeline. The first models that will feature the diesel engine which is in development now will be the Accord and a crossover vehicle (between two existing models prices). After this, if the sales of the diesel cars goes well, they will develop a larger, more powerful diesel for the pilot and the Ridge.

Let's clarify this issue. Honda has two diesel engines in development. The first is an existing 4 cylinder diesel that in "development" for the US market. Honda currently uses this engine in Europe and it's a great engine. This is the first diesel engine to be introduced by Honda in the USA (for automotive use). I would expect it on late 2008 or early 2009 models... not in the MDX / Pilot / Odyssey platforms.

The second engine is the one we've been speculating about here. It's a V-6 diesel and will first appear in the MDX probably late 2009 model year. Unlike the 4 cylinder engine this is a totally new Honda design that is not currently used elsewhere in the world. This engine would be a great fit for the Ridgeline, but as previously discussed Honda is not currently planning a allowing this diesel in the Ridgeline.

 

I think a turbo would be great. There is a company called STS (squire turbo systems???) they make remote turbos that mount farther down the exhaust.
http://www.ststurbo.com/

I think that would be a the way to go. Let's start sending them e-mails

I wonder if I get a discount?