It is very unlikely Honda would cover an alignment under warranty, unless it cannot be aligned within specs, then they might say it has been abused. Check with your dealer, but I wouldn't do option #3 under any circumstances.

 

THIS^^^ NEVER EVER modify the frame!

 

Its NOT within specs. I am going to ask the service manager. Honda did the alignment

 

I’m not seeing the measurement. What is out of spec?

 

Here it is.

 

stock tires? stock suspension, e.g. rear struts? no lift?

Service manual says about rear camber,
"If the measurement is not within the specification, check for bent or damaged suspension components."

"Light towing" <= 3500 lbs right?

 

Everything stock...

 

Can’t see it but if it’s negative camber is high no problem
if it’s toe might be small wear issue

 

Not sure it would affect it overall too much, but wonder how much of this pre-alignment checklist was followed to the tee (especially, like full tank of gas, spare, etc):

For proper inspection and adjustment of the wheel alignment, do these checks:
1. Release the parking brake to avoid an incorrect measurement.
2. Make sure the suspension is not modified.
3. Make sure the fuel tank is full, and the spare tire, jack, and tools are in place inside the vehicle.
4. Check the tire size and tire pressure according to the tire information.
5. Set the steering column to the middle tilt position and telescopic position.
6. Check the runout of the wheels and tires.
7. Check the suspension ball joints (Raise and support the vehicle. Hold a tire with your hands, and move it up and down and right and left to check for movement).
8. Before doing alignment inspections, be sure to remove all extra weight from the vehicle, and no one should be inside the vehicle (driver or passengers).
9. Lower the vehicle to the ground. Bounce the vehicle up and down several times to stabilize the suspension.

 

 

I think all of that was done. It only has 24000 miles on it. All stock.

 

I need to know how hard to push the dealership for a fix. Its almost new!

 

Is there any weight in the trunk? No adjustment from the factory but there are after markets kits to add rear camber adjustment.

 

No weight in trunk.

Can you give me a link to kits?

 

If it's like my Dealer, they didn't follow any pre alignment procedure. Check it three times and get three different readings. I ignore them as my truck tracks straight and true and tire wear is even.

 

I may get a second opinion

 

I would get a second opinion. Ask the original shop when was the last time they had their machine leveled and calibrated, it could be off.

I spent 25 years doing alignments, the amount it is out of 'spec' is really minimal and I certainly would not 'modify' the vehicle to correct it.

 

thanks "really minimal" makes me feel better

 

Positive camber in the front will create bad understeer. I know this is argued, but everything I find officially from Honda says only the toe is adjustable. Camber and caster are fixed and not adjustable the way the suspension is built, so if they are out of spec, something fixed may be bent, not something adjustable needing adjustment.

 

I going to take it to my frame shop. They are really good. the Honda foreman said this is "normal"

 

Modern radial tires will forgive a small amount of camber.

 

This alignment problem sounds hauntingly similar to my past '13 CRV AWD. A Firestone dealer insisted on an alignment with a set of new tires at 35K miles. So sure... make sense to have this done. They attempted to adjust the "out-of-spec" rear axle camber (non-adjustable). Afterwards the entire vehicle shook & shimmied so bad I took it back twice to get this readjusted. Then, they claimed the vehicle was defective & couldn't be set correctly so voided the warranty on the new set of tires. They had it so screwed up that my Honda dealer had to fix it. The Honda tech came into the waiting room asking..."WTF was wrenching on my CRV?" It took him a couple of trial & fail attempts on their alignment rack to get this reset correctly. My advice is if the truck is handling correctly, leave it alone.

 

Thanks. My frame shop has been doing this for 35 years. I only going to get there advice.
They will probley agree with you. (and I do too)

 

I found this to adjust rear Camber. I am going to ask my frame shop

MOOG K100199

 

Unless you’re seeing abnormal tire wear or having handling symptoms, I wouldn’t worry about it. Camber is dependent on ride height. My guess is you could jump up and down in the bed a few times and get a different measurement. The aftermarket kits are really for those who raise or lower the factory suspension. Plus a little bit of negative camber will shave off time from your Autocross runs.😀

 

Thanks! Ill let you know what my frame shop says. I am curious....