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Comma.ai self-driving technology and the Ridgeline

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Huh... That's pretty interesting. Do you know if it has vehicle detection and avoidance like a Tesla where it can spot someone coming over the line into your lane and move over some (within the lane) to avoid a collision? Unless this system is insanely expensive (8K+) I could see these things selling like crazy at least until it's made illegal or regulated out of the market somehow. Autopilot is already an expensive upgrade on a Tesla. This just matches that in a Honda. I'll send it around to a few friends who are really into autonomous driving capability. Maybe they'll buy a Honda instead of waiting for their Model 3 reservation to come up!

I'm not sure I would personally spring for it though because it basically already drives like this for me with LKAS alone. On the trips I make up and down to Chicago on I74/I55 the markings are good enough that I just keep a finger on the wheel and the truck basically does the drive for me. This would allow me to reclaim my finger. :p
 
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Huh... That's pretty interesting. Do you know if it has vehicle detection and avoidance like a Tesla where it can spot someone coming over the line into your lane and move over some (within the lane) to avoid a collision? Unless this system is insanely expensive (8K+) I could see these things selling like crazy at least until it's made illegal or regulated out of the market somehow. Autopilot is already an expensive upgrade on a Tesla. This just matches that in a Honda. I'll send it around to a few friends who are really into autonomous driving capability. Maybe they'll buy a Honda instead of waiting for their Model 3 reservation to come up!
It is level two.

From Wikipedia said:
Levels of driving automation
In SAE's autonomy level definitions, "driving mode" means "a type of driving scenario with characteristic dynamic driving task requirements (e.g., expressway merging, high speed cruising, low speed traffic jam, closed-campus operations, etc.)"[39]
Level 0: Automated system issues warnings may momentarily intervene but has no sustained vehicle control.
Level 1 (”hands on”): Driver and automated system shares control over the vehicle. An example would be Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) where the driver controls steering and the automated system controls speed. Using Parking Assistance, steering is automated while speed is manual. The driver must be ready to retake full control at any time. Lane Keeping Assistance (LKA) Type II is a further example of level 1 self driving.
Level 2 (”hands off”): The automated system takes full control of the vehicle (accelerating, braking, and steering). The driver must monitor the driving and be prepared to immediately intervene at any time if the automated system fails to respond properly. The shorthand ”hands off” is not meant to be taken literally. In fact, contact between hand and wheel is often mandatory during SAE 2 driving, to confirm that the driver is ready to intervene.
Level 3 (”eyes off”): The driver can safely turn their attention away from the driving tasks, e.g. the driver can text or watch a movie. The vehicle will handle situations that call for an immediate response, like emergency braking. The driver must still be prepared to intervene within some limited time, specified by the manufacturer, when called upon by the vehicle to do so. In 2017 the Audi A8 Luxury Sedan was the first commercial car to claim to be able to do level 3 self driving. The car has a so-called Traffic Jam Pilot. When activated by the human driver the car takes full control of all aspects of driving in slow-moving traffic at up to 60 kilometers per hour. The function only works on highways with a physical barrier separating oncoming traffic.
Level 4 (”mind off”): As level 3, but no driver attention is ever required for safety, i.e. the driver may safely go to sleep or leave the driver's seat. Self driving is supported only in limited areas (geofenced) or under special circumstances, like traffic jams. Outside of these areas or circumstances, the vehicle must be able to safely abort the trip, i.e. park the car, if the driver does not retake control.
Level 5 (”steering wheel optional”): No human intervention is required. An example would be a robotic taxi.
 
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The thing I noticed was the price, $999 or (1) bitcoin, which is currently selling for $15,226+. That would be one expensive system if you choose to pay by bitcoin.
 
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You really wouldn't want a self driving car? Friday night, get home from work, have dinner, relax a bit. Load up the car with the kids, tell the car to go to Disneyland (7ish hour drive for me), watch the car drive out of town and the first part, everyone eventually settles in to sleep. Wake up in the Disneyland parking lot.

Substitute the hunting cabin, the ski slope or whatever you want for Disneyland.
 
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I welcome self driving technologies and they will help keep us all safer, even if we use them only some of the time. I love driving and would never want to give up the option for manual control, but I'm sure the computer will be a safer driver than me and I sure hope the vast majority of people coming toward me on the highway will be driving autonomous cars. As for suspicion of GOV taking away everybody's freedoms, I wholeheartedly disagree with you but that's a discussion for another forum! Probably at the pub with a couple of beers.
I really like the RL LKAS and driver assist features for long drives
 
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I am finally back to work today and showed a friend of mine who is eccentric and loves technology stuff in cars. He said he's going to go buy a Honda Civic tonight so he can start setting this thing up. He's crazy so I don't know if he's serious or not but he did one day randomly buy a Cadillac Seville one day after work and then crashed it into a parking barricade in our parking lot for fun.
 
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RIDGELINE IS A GO!!!

So for those interested we got it working on the ridgeline a few days ago. My truck was the first and there are a few other guys in the next few days. The software is still in alpha stage so don't get out your wallets super quickly. In 1-3 months it should be ready for more normal consumer use.

Sorry about the crappy-ness of the video:
 
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:surprise::surprise::surprise:

PM ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am very interested in this. I have not watched the video yet but it looks like a G1 Ridgeline? or not even a ridgeline...?

RIDGELINE IS A GO!!!

So for those interested we got it working on the ridgeline a few days ago. My truck was the first and there are a few other guys in the next few days. The software is still in alpha stage so don't get out your wallets super quickly. In 1-3 months it should be ready for more normal consumer use.

Sorry about the crappy-ness of the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2CF0jHyMxY
oh yeah, I am not a normal consumer, so PM me asap. I am sure you need a tester for the East coast on and in Long Island traffic and roads
 
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Openpilot is opensource and all the hardware is available for sale (you need an eon, panda, and giraffe). There is nothing stopping you from diving in, ordering it, and figuring out what you need to do to get running. Don't expect it to boot up and work, like at all. To get the ridgeline working at the current time you would need to be able to figure out SSH and basic programing. Or wait a few months.
 
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Ridgeline Sensing Technology Cover

Hi all, looking for some help from the community to see how I can pry open the cover housing all the sensing technology in G2 (behind the rear view mirror). I am attempting to install Comma.ai's giraffe and self-driving tech but before I damage something trying to pry open the cover I was hoping that someone will be able to guide me.

Thank you in advance.
 
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Re: Ridgeline Sensing Technology Cover

This is something I'm interested in.

I am super-willing to drive in stop-and-go traffic if Honda allowed stop-and-go cruise control. I wish there were a hack to their Honda Sensing system to enable it but my suspicion is that the Honda system doesn't have enough resolution nor processing power to handle it.

The Nissan Rogue and Nissan Leaf already had it for a couple of years. I want it.
 
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Re: Ridgeline Sensing Technology Cover

This is something I'm interested in.

I am super-willing to drive in stop-and-go traffic if Honda allowed stop-and-go cruise control. I wish there were a hack to their Honda Sensing system to enable it but my suspicion is that the Honda system doesn't have enough resolution nor processing power to handle it.

The Nissan Rogue and Nissan Leaf already had it for a couple of years. I want it.
The Pilot, Ridgeline, and Odyssey lack the LSF (Low Speed Follow) feature of ACC (Adaptive Cruise Control) because of limitations in the VSA modulator used on these models.

Hi all, looking for some help from the community to see how I can pry open the cover housing all the sensing technology in G2 (behind the rear view mirror). I am attempting to install Comma.ai's giraffe and self-driving tech but before I damage something trying to pry open the cover I was hoping that someone will be able to guide me.

Thank you in advance.
1. Remove the cover (A).
2. Remove the camera cover (A).
3. Wait three seconds after switching the vehicle OFF to allow the camera unit to write to the EEPROM before disconnecting it!
 

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Re: Ridgeline Sensing Technology Cover

Line that puppy up when you put it back on or it'll be a potential calibration issue with the Honda Sensing...

Although after a new windshield and calibration when the cover was reinstalled, it's almost better than out of the factory...
 
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Re: Ridgeline Sensing Technology Cover

Line that puppy up when you put it back on or it'll be a potential calibration issue with the Honda Sensing...

Although after a new windshield and calibration when the cover was reinstalled, it's almost better than out of the factory...
According to the service information, aiming is only required if the camera is removed. If the OP simply removes the cover then removes the electrical connector to connect it to the giraffe, he should be fine if he decides to stop using the comma.ai system and revert back to the factory camera.

Here are a couple of videos of comma.ai's stuff being used in Ridgelines. There have been significant improvements to Openpilot's steering ability since then.



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I want to see these systems during the worst of conditions. Like, night & fog or night & snow or night & heavy rain. Then I will be comfortable with the autopilot stuff.
The only way, I can see, that it can work in absolute worst of conditions is using some type of FLIR or night vision that is residual heat based (like the ones in the AUDI & BMW) to detect objects under sever of conditions. Not that it would be wise to not be in control during those times, but there is a peace of mind that comes with these features if they are able to work even at the worst of situations.
 
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I was listening to an auto repair talk show on the radio this morning. They brought up some interesting thoughts regarding autonomous driving.

Nobody really knows how soon autonomous driving vehicles will be available for the general public, but it will be coming. Full implementation might be 10 years down the road, but it may be sooner or later.

A few of the interesting items that may be impacted are:

  • The number of auto repair shops will be greatly reduced
  • Fewer and fewer people will actually own a vehicle
  • There will no reason to carry auto insurance because the manufacturer of the vehicle or a rental company will have it
  • Ticket revenue for police departments will be eliminated
  • The number of auto dealers selling new cars will be reduced
  • There won't be as many accidents so police and fire department staffing will be reduced

Of course, this is not an exhaustive list, but I thought it was interesting how autonomous driving cars will change the entire landscape of our cities, government, and insurance companies.
 
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Any progress on this? I see the neodriven.com has lost its domain. I'm really interested in this technology! There is no doubt on it being the future! I'm a 1st responder who has seen many people behind the wheel that seem the lack the computing power of Apple IIe. Not just drunks and distracted drivers... elderly and special needs community are also drivers. This technology would definitely save lives and property in long run. Desire to drive yourself is purely for self satisfaction.
 
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Yes the software had been updated a few times now.

The newest version of the software works amazingly well! Massive night and day improvement over the stock LKAS/Cruise!

At this point I would totally recommend it for anyone interested. The hardware has also gotten cheaper. You will need a Eon, panda (go for the grey one), and giraffe. If anyone wants a white panda let me know as I would be willing to sell mine to upgrade to the grey one.