. . . wouldn't be enough to motivate me to buy a brand new formerly $70k Ram. Even IF the out the door price was less than $50k

BTW, I haven't watched the video, but I'm thinking the Big-Discounts would be on the least popular none moving models.

 

A lower price won't make them more reliable.

 

Their stock has a 12.8% dividend. They are very desperate. I bet they offer a free Hornet to stockholders soon.

 

Their stock has a 12.8% dividend.

Dang. If they weren't about to implode, I'd buy some.

 

That would certainly irritate recent buyers of the RAM truck who paid $70K+.

Had similar happen to use when Chevrolet first introduced their "employee pricing" and effectively reduced prices overnight. We had just bought a Trailblazer a couple of weeks before. In addition to normal depreciation, the value dropped almost 5K overnight. We were not happy campers to say the least. Even though we had put a decent amount down, were were suddenly upside down for over a year.

 

The high price for what you got is the main reason I didn't get a Gladiator. We will see how pricing looks in 3 years when I'm ready to turn my lease back in.

 

I want a new gladiator and hopefully the inflated pricing will go away , I left the GM fold because of this , and if continues I will buy an import , lots of good cars priced to be affordable and if the service after the sale is there , so I will be as well

 

We were driving behind a brand new Ram with a temp tag and commented to my son, "that new Ram owner is going to be pretty upset in January."

 

Sometimes companies raise their prices to see how much buyers will pay in their quest for profits. Market will adjust accordingly.

 

I can see them doing that for entry level trims with some option packages. Think there is still that parade of upper middle class to wealthy middle aged buyers that will pay for 40k worth of options on a 50k base priced vehicle. Almost pure profit.

 

Junk at 35% off the prices...is still junk. I was a Ram driver for over 39 years and not once did any of them perform as our Passport and Ridgeline - zero time in the shop from day one other than routine oil/filter changes. I have never been able to say that about my Dodge 150s, 1500, 2500, 3500 as they each had to make a run to the shop after the initial purchase. Honda never seen either the Passport nor our Ridgeline in the shop for repairs...simply maintenance.

 

Mine must be a fluke then. It's been in for warranty work twice in the two months I have had it since new, and will be going back a third time once the warped trim replacement comes in.

 

I’ll pass.

 

If they paid me to take one, I'd refuse. I done the Ram thing before, when they were better, LOL. Great truck until 40,000, then the oil leaks started. That required a new intake and gasket. Then the dealer repainting job (I didn't know about) started losing the clear coat. This wasn't a Ram problem though. I also had headlight problems with the projector bulbs and was starting to have tranny problems. My truck had a coolant diverter problem which relates to the heater core, it went bad and also leaked. This was a 2017 Ram, when they were even better.

 

It was not my intention to bash Stellantis for their products, but merely make people aware that their prices may be coming down. I looked at a few Toyota products and their prices have risen quite a bit also on their upper trims, but not nearly as much as Stellantis.

 

Toyota Tundra Capstone edition starts at $80,000 and goes up, so yes, they have a little price increase. Tacoma TRD Pro starts at $63,000 and also goes up.

 

Holy cr@p - things are crazy with Toyota since I bought my 2013 Tundra double cab for $24,000 with 180 miles on it.

 

Now this isn't just price creep, it is price leaping! The new 4Runner pricing.

 

Let's see if Toyota gets away with it after all the buzz wears off. I think it's going to be like the new Taco and the lots will fill up. It's at the point where the price of admission to Toyota is not worth it anymore because a long lasting reliable vehicle is no longer a layup. Some of the new models have proved to be disappointing. The Grand Highlander is horrible in the offset test, the Taco is too small in the back, that new 2.4t hybid powertrain is a disappointment in the Land Cruiser. A V6 was always an optional upgrade but Toyota now thinks a turbo hybrid admission price is 60k for something that gets similar MPG's.

I think that during Covid, the price levels of new cars increased just not as much as new cars. All of a sudden a new gas car was similar in price to an EV with the 7k discount. Yes, you can use the inflation calculator to refute this but it all seems to engineered to me with offering a base mode that shows little price increase but they'll be unobtanium while the volume trims have some hefty increases for a more expensive product offering.

 

Inflation sucks. As a result we see these price increases. Yeah, I bought a brand new 1980 Mercury Capri Turbo RS for $8500. Loved that car for 57,000mi in 2 1/2 years. Sold it for $4000. But I did get paid to drive at 26.5 cents a mile !

 

I’m sure that’s why I see tons of Hyundai vehicles where I live. Affordable.