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The pro union delusion is typical of communism fanboys who have adopted the position only because their union leaders have failed to infiltrate Tesla. Their "experiences" with union workers noted in these posts are likely made-up. It's both sad and pathetic. They don't say a word about the union corruption and failures and how they are constantly outperformed by basically anyone not in a union.

Fun game.

Thanks for trolling and derailing this thread. /s
Communism? Hardly. As a boilermaker who received my training from Boilermakers Local 92 and later started my own welding business, we American Union folks are hardly Communists. "Infiltrate Tesla"? Incidentally, if any 'infiltration" has taken place, it is by the wealthiest grifter in history, Tesla's Elon Musk, with his infiltration of our government and the attempt to dismantle the Civil Service for the cause of cronyism. Organizing workers is the foundation of American labor rights. I won't deny that Unions have had their problems when infiltrated by mobsters and grifters; however, your statement that unions workers are "constantly outperformed by basically anyone not in a union" is a lie. If anyone is trolling, it's you.
 
Yea what would @zroger73 know about it. He owns both types of vehicles. Those that only have ICE based vehicles are definitely in a superior position to pontificate on the topic and tell those that drive both the value of their assumptions. /s 🙄
The market provided the answer, not some guy who thinks he knows everything. Hertz had to sell the Teslas because hardly anyone wanted to rent them. End of story.
 
SleeStak: I agree with your pro-union stance but your comments are not appropriate for this forum and neither are ZombiePhysicist's anti-union comments.

There is blame to go around, zroger73 chummed the waters with the first anti-union comment. All comments may have some basis in fact but let's not conflate our opinions with fact.
 
Communism? Hardly. As a boilermaker who received my training from Boilermakers Local 92 and later started my own welding business, we American Union folks are hardly Communists. "Infiltrate Tesla"? Incidentally, if any 'infiltration" has taken place, it is by the wealthiest grifter in history, Tesla's Elon Musk, with his infiltration of our government and the attempt to dismantle the Civil Service for the cause of cronyism. Organizing workers is the foundation of American labor rights. I won't deny that Unions have had their problems when infiltrated by mobsters and grifters; however, your statement that unions workers are "constantly outperformed by basically anyone not in a union" is a lie. If anyone is trolling, it's you.
It’s hilarious hearing “Americans” being anti-union. They have zero idea what they’re talking about. They probably dont realize that basically every trade has a union. Sports players, writers, actors, police, firefighters, building trades, auto workers, farmers, food service workers etc. Anyone who is antiunion IS the problem.

like I said in my previous post. These people are delusional if they think anyone can do what we do in skilled labor. Imagine a high rise being built in a city with non union. There isn’t a company in the world who could supply the skilled labor required. They don’t have thousands of highly trained workforce. They have whoever they can hire to be a body on the job. They don’t have to have any apprenticeship or journeyman test. Could’ve been hired yesterday and coming to a building near you. I’d love for these suits to go on Reddit and go into a trades subreddit and see how people desire to get into the unions.
 
Mods, perhaps we can move the union-related posts to their own thread?

Curiously, some of the most reliable brands of automobiles including Honda, Toyota, and Mazda are non-unionized while some of the least reliable including GM and Ford are unionized. Coincidence?

I am neither for nor against unions. I've never been a member of one. I just know that I can tell when I'm working with a union employee and it takes 10x as long to get things done.
We know we know. You’re better than everyone. You’re wealthy, you have enough money to buy the Cybertruck cash. Blah blah blah. Unions take 10x longer than cutting corners in the non union world. You’d feel just as safe going into a 100+ high rise built by nonunion as union.

Wait, don’t you not even own a Ridgeline? Why the hell are you on this forum? Head over to the Nazi platform and discuss your Teslas.
 
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@SleeStak and @Exkal1bur3, I suggest you refrain from these discussions per the moderator's request before you get my thread shut down...or yourselves banned.

WARNING: This thread is not about the benefits of union vs non-union companies. It is about the CT. It we continue to stray from the topic, this thread will be shut down also.
 
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