I would hang onto the Sport for another year or two. Reasons:

1) It's still young and reliable;

2) They are not giving you anywhere near what it's worth in trade;

3) The 2017 is a first year model with some typical growing pains;

4) A 2018 or 2019 stands a chance of having the opening rear window trickle down to lower trims, and to having the rear door hinge re-designed for wider opening. (In fact, those are probably the two most likely changes to be made in the next model year or two);

5) Your kids will be a year or two older and will hopefully take a little better care of the new vehicle (fewer spills, pukes, diaper blow-outs, etc).

 

What's wrong with the 13? Not old, it serves your needs, probably has low miles. It has some life left and you can wait a bit until the 17 inventory has caught up, then you can get a better deal and maybe some of the mid-model improvements might come into effect.

I'm waiting until my 09 Tacoma gives up the ghost and I'm getting the Ridgeline. It checks all of my boxes as a suburban, daily truck driver who loves a truck for weekend warrior stuff but doesn't offroad or need to tow 10k lbs.

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You've fallen into the E trap. To have that window it will cost you big bucks over an RTS. Either pay up or forego transporting the trim. Not an ideal situation and Honda trim offerings have put you in a box for sure. The swaying factor would be the sensing if your wife is mentioning it and those awesome headlights to boot. Maybe the aftermarket will come up with a manual rear window. You could keep your current RL until you can take a look at the other trucks when they come to market in the next year or two. It's just a shame because an RTS plus sensing (1k) and a rear window (500?) is all you need. If you have to do this right now at least you are getting a good deal on an E. A radical thought would be a 4WD Sienna. It sounds like it will cover all the bases except you get the good old minivan label in return.

 

It sounds to me like you've already decided.

Test drive a few different trucks. (F150, Canyon, and the RL) Then decide what works for you.

I personally drove the Ram Big horn 3.0 Diesel (and loved it from a motor perspective) and drove the 2.8 GMC Canyon and hated it from a pickup perspective and the F150 (best competition to the RL2 IMO). And then I bought the RL2 cause it was better for what I wanted (A SUV like pickup truck which I call my SUT). The RL is the best of the group for being like a car like thing. It's less truck like on the road and less truck like and fits in my garage. And I don't have to tow anything over 3500lbs anyway. So, it was the RL for me. And yes, I agree the opening back window would be nice for 16ft moulding but I haul that only like once every 5 or so years. (maybe)

Steve

 

I LOVE my G2, just saying.

Isn't it possible to buy a OEM rear window with sliding door and have it installed?

Or wait for the '18 G2 on something that MIGHT change.

 

To make the G2 into what I really want:

1) 2" more ground clearance (do-able) aftermarket lift kit and tires
2) skid plates (do-able) aftermarket
3) turbo diesel and 30 gal. tank for some R A N G E ! Honda makes the N22 diesel for non US market cars...but is a little small.

 

Two out of three ain't bad

 

Sounds like you need to keep your 2013 and keep it till you hit at least 200k!

 

This is what I would do.

 

2013 is such a young vehicle. Unless it already has over 200k, I'd just keep it running. I say 20 years or 200k or more than $1000 a year to keep running for 3 years in a row, unless you really need a functional change.

 

It's your money, and the happiness and excitement that comes with a new vehicle means a lot. No question there.

In addition to the points ISOTruck made on post 2, I'm going to bring up the cold hard reality of depreciation. As your dealer has subtly pointed out, your 2013's value has dropped $14k in the four years you've had it. Another ROC member posted a couple of weeks ago about his 2017 RTL-E with 17,000 miles in San Diego. KBB now values that RTL-E as $35,289. Current MSRP is around $42k, meaning RTL-Es are dropping in value $7k their first year (at least in San Diego). Generally the first year is the worst hit. But lets assume you buy the E. A year from now, $21K in value will have evaporated from your two purchases spanning 5 years.

Again, that's fine and dandy if you've got the money. Having a new car can bring lots of pleasure and excitement. If it is worth it to you, go for it.

 

Another ROC member posted a couple of weeks ago about his 2017 RTL-E with 17,000 miles in San Diego. KBB now values that RTL-E as $35,289. Current MSRP is around $42k, meaning RTL-Es are dropping in value $7k their first year (at least in San Diego). Generally the first year is the worst hit.

Wouldn't the mileage have something to do with the value? 17k for a current model year vehicle is a lot of miles. An -E with 2000 miles on it would not suffer the same depreciation.

 

I'm always baffled about these kind of posts. Is the OP taking a poll and then buying based on the consensus of opinions? If you can afford a new car and want it just do it. Everything doesn't have to be justified in dollars.

I had a 2015 Canyon about 2 years, but it have transmission shifting issues that bugged me every time I drove it. From a financial point of view I should have kept driving it, but I could afford to trade and I did. So far I'm very happy with the RTL-E.

Don't know if this helps, but its really your decision.

 

Just had the TB service done on my 07, I will keep it for another 5 years, IMO much nicer than the 17's granted it's not new but still looks it and runs like it. Unfortunately the new car smell wore off awhile ago, oncE I do get rid of it I will not get another Honda as there quality is going south.

 

Sucks to hear because mine has been running like a dream since Day 1. I wish I liked the G1s enough to have gotten one, just couldn't get past the look.

 

You don't really say "why" you're looking for a new truck. That's kind of important.

If you just want something new, and have the money, go get whatever you want. If there are specific reasons why your '13 is no longer working for you, you might want to post that, as that would greatly impact what you might want to look at as a replacement.

 

Couldn't agree more with folks who say it isn't all about the $$$. What do your heart & gut say?

 

Typing reading on this cellphone is a well anyway I had to
Re read the post a 2013 is just a baby for a vehicle.
I don't know reason for wanting new model.
I did that once purchased a 1990 Accord LX new but wanted the EX. Credit Union would only give loan for LX.
I accessorized it the way I wanted with OEM parts fog lights alloy wheels. I really never liked the lighter color int.
So when all new 1994 Accord was first released I bought a it a few days after. Credit Union didn't have any problems then the 1990 was paid off in 3yrs. I took a hit on trade in but got what I wanted and accessories were on at time of delivery.
I was happy with my purchase

 

You're making the classic mistake that car dealers love... You're trading in a vehicle that is not very old with not many miles on it for basically the same vehicle with more gadgets.

I just bought my RTL-E at invoice and got rid of my beloved 2000 F150, that needed a new AC system.. Just was time for a new truck.

Suggest you drive your old Ridgeline into the ground!

 

I just got an RTL-E in February. I love it! I wanted a car with towing capacity, but could not find one. I do not need a pickup truck, but I need something that can tow my 16' enclosed motorcycle trailer with bike or bikes inside and not struggle. My '05 Subaru Outback towed it, but it would drop down to less than 10 MPG, sometimes as low as 7.5. It revved the heck out of the engine on long or steep hills while towing.

The Ridgeline may not ride like a car, but it is close. It is incredibly quiet, it handles reasonably well, and today it walked up a hill with 13" of fresh snow as if the road was clean and dry. I am installing a Peragon Tonneau cover this weekend mostly for looks, but it adds protection for items in the bed. The electronics may not be cutting edge, but they are sufficient for my needs. In short, this truck fits me like a glove.

I too would wait 1 - 2 years to buy in hopes that they offer ventilated seats and work out any bugs that might crop up on a 1st year model. I probably could have waited, but my girlfriend's Kia Spectra had 180,000 miles on it and I figured my Subaru was probably safer and likely to last her longer than her Kia, so it was a good excuse to buy now! :grin:

I don't think you would be unhappy with the 2017, and some of the features on the RTL-E are nice to have. Whatever you choose, I wish you peace and happiness with your decision and purchase.

 

Buy the " E " you won't be sorry. Had a 2010 that I loved but bought the RTL-E and never looked back. The price you were offered is good especially if its the color you want.

 

I'm staying with my Gen 1 because (1) there is nothing wrong with it....nothing. (2) not impressed with the performance of all the new electronics in the E (an E is all I would consider). 'Guess I'm the Maytag man.

 

I made the move to the G2. After 11 years with my 06 RTL NAVI I decided to pull the the trigger on a 2017 RTL-E. Have only owned the G2 for about 500 miles but so far I really like it. Very smooth and quite. I had a chance to drive it in a bit of a snow storm last week and it really drove well in the snow. My 06 had been such a good vehicle I kept it and gave it to my son. View attachment 292930

 

Been looking around some more.....

Canyon / Colorado both are less than 4' between the rear wells - can't lay a 4x8 sheet flat. score to RL.
Tundra: gas pig with the 5.7. I don't want 15mpg. score RL
Frontier looked good. but again, narrow, even shorter bed. score RL again.

But; do I really need another RL over the 13? no. would it be nice? sure.....

I guess I'm unrealistic, but I'd have to be at 20K and my truck OTD. and that doesn't look like its possible for an E.
If I wait til the 18s, maybe Honda will listen and a slider window will be avail. in less models.
Maybe there might even be a diesel tundra coming around. I'm sure honda will stay with the 3.5 - why not.

How come honda hasn't offered a flex fuel option????? Isn't E15 coming soon????? I think E10 is the max on the RL No?

 

Been looking around some more.....

How come honda hasn't offered a flex fuel option????? Isn't E15 coming soon????? I think E10 is the max on the RL No?

Trying to drive yourself crazy I see....

E anything drops the MPG's a lot. So, I don't like it but you seem to want the G2 but are trying to convince yourself you don't want it. I don't think that is going to work for much longer...:wink: