Can I use 2011 odyssey engine in 2006 ridgeline
Engine swap
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Nope. The 17 has direct injection and VCM. Not even remotely plug and play.
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...and the PCM operates a 6-speed transmission, not a 5-speed. There's no mounting point for a hydraulic power steering pump on the 2017. The list goes on. About the only thing they have in common is that they both displace 3.5L. Most everything attached to the block is different.
Well, they are totally different engines that hook up to totally different transmissions.
The 2008 Ridgeline has a J35A9 motor connected to a 5AT tranny.
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The 2017 Ridgeline has a J35Y6 engine connect to a 6AT tranny.
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The 2017 has VCM. The 2008 does not have VCM.
I doubt the ECUs are remotely compatible.
But I'll bet there are experts here who can further elaborate on the issues involved. (and after I posted this I noticed some have already elaborated!)
Out of curiosity, why would you want to put in a 2017 J35 in place of a 2008 J35?
And is this something you would like to do on your own? Or have a shop do the job?
The 2008 Ridgeline has a J35A9 motor connected to a 5AT tranny.
Honda Ridgeline (first generation) - Wikipedia
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The 2017 Ridgeline has a J35Y6 engine connect to a 6AT tranny.
Honda Ridgeline (second generation) - Wikipedia
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The 2017 has VCM. The 2008 does not have VCM.
I doubt the ECUs are remotely compatible.
But I'll bet there are experts here who can further elaborate on the issues involved. (and after I posted this I noticed some have already elaborated!)
Out of curiosity, why would you want to put in a 2017 J35 in place of a 2008 J35?
And is this something you would like to do on your own? Or have a shop do the job?
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Thanks for the info. So for my understanding of what you guys are explaining I can take the tranny bellhousing off the 08 and put it on the 2017 and a few other things. But it still wouldn't matter because the computers wouldn't matchup is that what I'm understanding? Or could I take everything I need off my 08 engine and put it on the 2017 engine? I am doing this because I found a really good deal on a 2017 engine that's like half the price of an 08 engine. Yes I would be doing this myself.
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I admire your ambition, but what you're asking to do is impractical from both a mechanical and electrical/electronic perspective. You'll need a J35A9 engine from a 2006-2008 Ridgeline or AWD Pilot. Even a J35Z5 from a 2009-2014 Ridgeline won't work. The 2017 Ridgeline uses a J35Y6 engine.
Just as a engine swap it will not.
- cylinder heads on the G1 and G2 are different due to the placement of fuel injector.
- G1 head will not bolt up to a G2 block.(timing belt is also different)
- It is not clear, if the G2 transmission bellhousing, can be bolted up to the G1, esp the '06-'08. (as you may know, there were may things that were 'one off' with the '06-'08 models, before the refresh of the '09+, where parts started to be more widely used among many other models).
- Basically every single electronics on the G2 is different than the G1. So a mere engine swap is not a plug and play, let alone meaningful.
. So my advice, get the A9 block, rebuild it, and swap it into your truck.
If you want to swap an engine in for the stock J35A9, get a J37. Search out threads here about it. Here are a couple to get you thinking.
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Bob's 3.7L M90 Supercharged Build
Here is my current progress. Going to use the stock intake mani spacer to keep the torque curve low. Already have KTuner and Bisimoto is gonna take care of the actual tuning. 305hp on tap will be a HUGE improvement. :grin:
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Random thoughts about swapping to a 3.7L in a 2006-2008...
So, thanks to Dope's thread about his awesome swap, I'm trying to figure out what it'll take for those of us with the earlier Gen. 1 models to accomplish a similar feat. I just want to throw a few thoughts out and let everybody throw their 2 cents in and tell me if I'm way off base. First off...
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A quick frame of reference for swap-ability of the J35 motors for the RL. The round bell housing is the same for all the G1 Ridgelines, 06+ pilot, 07+ ody, 08+ accord, etc. The R70 heads on the 09+ are the same casting between the vcm and vtec, you simply have to change out the rocker assembly with solenoids and camshaft. My first RL ('10) was purchased after it had been run low on oil and locked up the camshafts in the heads so I purchased cams and pulled the heads off an 08 Ody and swapped the rockers and put replacement cams in. Has been running for years. To swap the entire engine you would also need to swap the oil filter adapter with the vtec solenoid over to the vcm engine. This is only for the J35Z, not the J35Y. As mentioned above the Y is a very different motor. I haven't put as much research into the 06-08 J35A9 heads as far as swappability, but wanted to share what I had.
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will a 2010 ridge line motor work in a 2008 ridge line ?
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No - you need a 2006-2008 engine.
Just got a 2008 Acura MDX J37A1 engine from a junkyard. Going to attempt to put this thing in my 07 Ridgeline. I messed up my first J35 swap by not torquing the camshaft screw after changing the seals...noob mistake.
Please forum gods...I need a list of things to watch out for or to ensure prior to and after the drop in. I dont want to make stupid mistakes again.
I dont know when I will get time to do this but when I do I will most certainly post my progress on this or a new thread.
Thanks in advance
Please forum gods...I need a list of things to watch out for or to ensure prior to and after the drop in. I dont want to make stupid mistakes again.
I dont know when I will get time to do this but when I do I will most certainly post my progress on this or a new thread.
Thanks in advance
Few things to watch out for
You can swap out the lower runners, including the injectors, furl rail & fuel pipe with the Ridgeline's to combat any such related incompatibility
BTW, does your J37A1 look something like this? >>> 07 08 09 ACURA MDX 3.7L ENGINE MOTOR J37A1 OEM | eBay
Lastly, the '06-'08 stock Ridgeline engines resemble more of the Gen 3 TL 3.2 engine than anything. The J37 a later generation engine that resemble the J35Z5 found in the '09+ Ridgelines.
I believe you might be first one that I am aware of doing this in a '06-'08 MY chassis, since a couple have dropped a J37 into the '09+ MY.
Keep us posted on your progress and honestly I could learn something from your project too as many of the 'research' has been the internet from other sources and hard to validate their authenticity.
- Bellhousing design/shape compatibility with Ridgeline transmission
- the injector clips are different than the Ridgeline (from what I know)
- J37 injectors are taller as well
- check the J37 valve cover to intake manifold clearance (if the lower runners are swapped)
- Coil packs of the J37 is longer than the J35 (from what I know)
- ensure that the power steering house connections (coming out of the pump) is compatible with the J35, if using the J37 unit
- if using J37 intake manifold, custom intake pipe between throttle body and airbox might be needed.
- Double check the water pipe outlet to the thermostat. I have seen pictures of some J37A1s with an older style black pipe between the V-bank of the engine and others are casted into the block.
You can swap out the lower runners, including the injectors, furl rail & fuel pipe with the Ridgeline's to combat any such related incompatibility
BTW, does your J37A1 look something like this? >>> 07 08 09 ACURA MDX 3.7L ENGINE MOTOR J37A1 OEM | eBay
Lastly, the '06-'08 stock Ridgeline engines resemble more of the Gen 3 TL 3.2 engine than anything. The J37 a later generation engine that resemble the J35Z5 found in the '09+ Ridgelines.
I believe you might be first one that I am aware of doing this in a '06-'08 MY chassis, since a couple have dropped a J37 into the '09+ MY.
Keep us posted on your progress and honestly I could learn something from your project too as many of the 'research' has been the internet from other sources and hard to validate their authenticity.
Yes sir that ebay pic is exactly what it looks like...with the bluish coil pack connectors as well. Too bad I didnt leave the coil packs in because I thought they are the same. I will definitely keep you guys posted. The J37 is currently sitting on the back of my 07 MDX...ironically lol. I love this engine. I will take a picture once I get it on an engine stand. Thanks for the help!
Well...looks like everything should fit without a problem. The Ridgeline TBody slides right in. I remember reading somewhere on this forum that a modification is needed on the manifold in the 2010+ model for IAT sensor. Doesn’t seem to be the case here tho.
I don’t like that hole on the mani tho....
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Yikes! A hole in the manifold is definitely not good. Wonder if the engine ran or if it was just damaged during extraction. Is it worth it to pull heads now and see what’s inside before getting it into the Ridgeline? You have all the access in the world now and better to know if there is a problem before its in.
The car ran fine. The manifold was damaged during extraction. If you look closely the mount for the sensor broke off and made the hole. I’m thinking JB weld....
Also if I’m not mistaken the 3.5L manifold is an exact fit for the 07-09 MDX 3.7L. I could be wrong but someone from the J series forum also said it.
Quick update for those interested in the J37 swap progress. The J37A1 (2007-09 MDX) is almost exactly like the J35 that came with the Ridgeline. Everything fits like factory. I'm currently mating the engine to the RL transmission and the only thing...regrettably did not fit was the MDX flexplate. I dont know why I thought it might work but even though all of the holes lined up with the torque converter...the angle at which the plate was bent makes it almost impossible to thread the screws through.
Wish someone had told me this beforehand...but I guess it was kinda common sense. I'm gonna have to separate the engine and tranny again...more work yay.
Aside from that...just as other gurus pointed out, I had to de-pin the connectors for the fuel injectors in order to fit them into J37A1 FIs.
So far looks like the project is coming together nicely but knowing me something's gonna go horribly wrong again.
Wish someone had told me this beforehand...but I guess it was kinda common sense. I'm gonna have to separate the engine and tranny again...more work yay.
Aside from that...just as other gurus pointed out, I had to de-pin the connectors for the fuel injectors in order to fit them into J37A1 FIs.
So far looks like the project is coming together nicely but knowing me something's gonna go horribly wrong again.
Unfortunately @Hashirama Senju I've only seen a "limited" number of J37 Swaps, and non of those members seem to be active any longer.Quick update for those interested in the J37 swap progress. The J37A1 (2007-09 MDX) is almost exactly like the J35 that came with the Ridgeline. Everything fits like factory. I'm currently mating the engine to the RL transmission and the only thing...regrettably did not fit was the MDX flexplate. I dont know why I thought it might work but even though all of the holes lined up with the torque converter...the angle at which the plate was bent makes it almost impossible to thread the screws through.
Wish someone had told me this beforehand...but I guess it was kinda common sense. I'm gonna have to separate the engine and tranny again...more work yay.
Aside from that...just as other gurus pointed out, I had to de-pin the connectors for the fuel injectors in order to fit them into J37A1 FIs.
So far looks like the project is coming together nicely but knowing me something's gonna go horribly wrong again.
Thank You for continuing to follow up and document such issues as it might will be helpful for the next member who attempts it.
Best of Luck, and Keep Documenting
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