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Ford will be offering a side-opening gate on their 2024 F150, but it will be a small center gate as opposed to the Ridgeline's full-size setup. If you get the little gate, you don’t get the "old man" step.

In other news, they are dropping the 3.3L V6 and the 2.7L egoboost will be the base motor. Also, the 8' bed only comes in the base truck now.

They've also dropped max payload and towing in order to offer a larger gas tank.

 
Interesting. Thanks for sharing.
Honda's implementation is certainly more useful and practical.

Here is Ford's rational for not making the entire tailgate swing...
Ford says they also looked at doing a tailgate where the entire thing swings to the side, but they decided this version made more sense. It has to do with all of the other weight-carrying requirements of the traditional tailgate, and how far the swing-out section can open when in tight quarters.
 
Sometimes the swing radius of the full tailgate is too much and not necessary since the Ford doesn't have a trunk. Finally, a nice dash for every trim but still a key on a trim in 2024?? So what's the sweet spot going to be now mid 60's.
 
Ford will be offering a side-opening gate on their 2024 F150, but it will be a small center gate as opposed to the Ridgeline's full-size setup. If you get the little gate, you don’t get the "old man" step.

In other news, they are dropping the 3.3L V6 and the 2.7L egoboost will be the base motor. Also, the 8' bed only comes in the base truck now.

They've also dropped max payload and towing in order to offer a larger gas tank.

Ah, it swings the "other way" too. I really, really miss my swinging tailgate. I used it almost daily. Reaching over is not fun.
 
Ford will be offering a side-opening gate on their 2024 F150, but it will be a small center gate as opposed to the Ridgeline's full-size setup. If you get the little gate, you don’t get the "old man" step.

In other news, they are dropping the 3.3L V6 and the 2.7L egoboost will be the base motor. Also, the 8' bed only comes in the base truck now.

They've also dropped max payload and towing in order to offer a larger gas tank.

Ford had the original patent on a two-way opening tailgate in the 1960’s on station wagons…
 
The dual action tailgate was probably one of the biggest reasons that I have purchased two Ridgelines over the years. I now own a RAM because we needed it to tow our travel trailer, but since we have now sold our trailer I'm considering going back to a Ridgeline. I'd like to see the 2024 Ridgeline make some upgrades to the vehicle, or a redesign, but looks like this isn't going to happen. An EV, or Hybrid model will not work for me as a redesign, so they have to do more then that to get me interested.
 
Back in the late 90's we had a gigantic Oldsmobile Custom Cruiser station wagon. The third row rear facing seat was accessed via a tailgate that opened just like the Ridgeline, swing out or drop down.
The front bench seat was like a sofa and it was the smoothest riding vehicle I've ever owned.
 
The dual action tailgate was probably one of the biggest reasons that I have purchased two Ridgelines over the years. I now own a RAM because we needed it to tow our travel trailer, but since we have now sold our trailer I'm considering going back to a Ridgeline. I'd like to see the 2024 Ridgeline make some upgrades to the vehicle, or a redesign, but looks like this isn't going to happen. An EV, or Hybrid model will not work for me as a redesign, so they have to do more then that to get me interested.
Supposedly a redesign is in the works, and Honda is looking to make some of the specs more competitive in the mid-size truck market considering the new offerings: Colorado/Canyon, Tacoma, and forthcoming Ranger
 
75% of F-150 owners need to tow? That seems high.

I find it very annoying that the price can vary from $35,800 to $84,100. Too many trim options. One of the things I really liked about the buying process with the Ridgeline is that there are only 4 trim levels, and they all come with the important stuff. Makes is super simple to compare trucks when buying used.
 
I like Ford's implementation better than the RL - it allows the tailgate to be dampened when opened the "normal" way
I like Ford’s better, too, for the reason you stated. Plus, the narrower swung open tailgate section doesn’t require so much space behind the truck. With my cargo trailer (with it’s tongue box) hitched up, the Honda gate didn’t have the room to swing open. I can’t be sure, but maybe the Ford would have worked.
 
It’s more like Honda copied Fords station wagon tailgate from 1966, and that storage cubby in the F-150 is kinda useless with only a gallon worth of storage space.

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Yep - remember those. A neighbor bought one and we kids thought it was the coolest thing in town to ride in the “way back” rear facing seats.
 
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Yep - remember those. A neighbor bought one and we kids thought it was the coolest thing in town to ride in the “way back” rear facing seats.
My parents had a Chevy Celebrity wagon when I was young, I have some fond memories of riding the back in those apparently quite unsafe rear facing seats.
 
My parents had a Chevy Celebrity wagon when I was young, I have some fond memories of riding the back in those apparently quite unsafe rear facing seats.
I had a 1988 Celebrity not the wagon , wished it was, but bought it used from family at a great price and it was a great dependable work car.
 
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