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Just thought I'd share my experience. Driving into work yesterday I got the flashing "D" gearshift indicator. I did not get the flashing "D" along with the check engine light (see owners manual), so I continued driving. The "D" continued to flash no matter what gear I was in. Given the snow Chicago has had in the past week, I did have some ice in my rims, and figured it was tripping a speed sensor or something similar. The "D" did not flash on my ride home.

Went to the dealer this morning (still no flashing "D") and they diagnosed it as the 4th gear pressure switch, and replaced it under warranty. It's amazing how damn smart vehicles are getting. I thought this was worth sharing as the truck didn't drive or shift any different than usual. It drove great in the 18+ inches of snow we got this week BTW.

Cheers.
 
Never heard that one before.. thanks for the info.
 
IIRC, the flashing "D" usually means the transmission fluid is low. ???
 
It may, but in my case it meant a problem with the fourth gear pressure switch as well. As I had just had the truck serviced, complete with a transmission fluid change, I went back to my dealership (by this time I had shut the engine on and off a couple of times and the light stopped flashing) and was told that while exchanging the fluid, a small speck of something could have gotten knocked loose and eventually got caught in the pressure switch, causing a code to be thrown. After I had shut the truck off, The "speck" left the pressure switch and the code went away.

This happened nearly four months ago and no flashing D yet and the truck driver without issue.
 
There may be a dozen or more reasons to cause a tranny code / flashing "D".

Who's got a manual that can add them up?

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Mother of God...

Might as well just blink "Take your truck to someone who knows what they're doing NOW"
 
Mother of God...

Might as well just blink "Take your truck to someone who knows what they're doing NOW"
Hah! Actually, that's *exactly* what that blinking code says to us mortals!
 
Hah! Actually, that's *exactly* what that blinking code says to us mortals!
Well, I mean it's great that the truck can do a self-diagnosis like that, but it seems as though there are WAY too many issues that the blinking "D" COULD signify. It seems to range from "It could pretty much go away on its own and never come back" to "Your transmission will blow up if you drive any longer".
 
Mother of God...

Might as well just blink "Take your truck to someone who knows what they're doing NOW"
LOL, Thats about the way it is with any new vehicle now a days. I run into the same problems at work. When the check engine or trans or ABS light comes on on a newer school bus, better get the laptop out quickly.
 
When the check engine or trans or ABS light comes on, better get the laptop out quickly.
Used to be (Back in the 60's) a good mechanic would need about $500. worth of Snap-Ons and a few years working under the guidance of the "old guy" who ran the shop. Nowadays, the "old guy" has clean fingernails and a degree in computer science.

When my 81 civic wagon needed some carb work done I took it to my nearby Dealership to see if they could help. None of the mechanics had ever dealt with a carburated car, not the least of which a 3 BBL Khien. One guy even asked where the plug for the code reader was so at least he could get a code of it. Sometimes I feel really old.

I eventually did find a guy who specializes in the early model civics. Wagon runs great and still gets around 30 MPG.
 
Used to be (Back in the 60's) a good mechanic would need about $500. worth of Snap-Ons and a few years working under the guidance of the "old guy" who ran the shop. Nowadays, the "old guy" has clean fingernails and a degree in computer science.

When my 81 civic wagon needed some carb work done I took it to my nearby Dealership to see if they could help. None of the mechanics had ever dealt with a carburated car, not the least of which a 3 BBL Khien. One guy even asked where the plug for the code reader was so at least he could get a code of it. Sometimes I feel really old.

I eventually did find a guy who specializes in the early model civics. Wagon runs great and still gets around 30 MPG.
I'm pretty sure I would have called him a moron and left. No one wants to get dirty anymore. Everyone thinks they can solve every problem with technology. Sometimes you just have to take it apart, clean it, fix it and put it back together again.
 
I'm pretty sure I would have called him a moron and left. No one wants to get dirty anymore. Everyone thinks they can solve every problem with technology. Sometimes you just have to take it apart, clean it, fix it and put it back together again.
I figured he was just young and didn't know any better. Fortunately, the other mechanic was able to fix the problem without having to resort to trying to find parts that simply don't exist anymore. A good cleaning, a small tweak of the floats and a little luck and I was back in business.
 
Sorry to bring this thread back from the dead, but I figured my issue didn't warrant an entire new thread.

So my wife and I made the trip down to my father-in-law's house (about 1.5 hours away) to help him with some things around the house on Sunday morning. We took the truck because I had some larger tools to take down with me. The trip down there was fine and no problems as usual. We then went into my mother-in-law's house for lunch before heading back home. As we left her house and before we left the city limits, my "D" light started flashing. This was the first time my truck has ever given me even the slightest hint that something could be wrong even at 139k miles. I immediately pulled off the side of the road and shut the truck down. My wife was freaking out at this point thinking we were going to have to replace the transmission, of course. I checked the tranny fluid, and it was just a smidge below the "low" mark on the stick. I didn't have any fluid with me to add and I was nowhere near a Honda dealership. So, I decided to keep going and keep an eye on it. Started it up and started going again. The "D" light started flashing again about 5-6 miles down the road. At this point I'm worried, but trying not to show it so the wife wouldn't have a melt down. I pulled off the road again, turned off the truck again, let it sit for a minute and started back up. The "D" light didn't flash again the entire 70 miles home nor has it come on since.

I had changed the tranny fluid about 13 months ago and apparently didn't put enough fluid in (1/2 - 3/4 quart low). I have only put about 11,000 miles on the truck since then. However, my daily commute changed from 50 miles a day to much less than that. Recently, I have also been coming home every day for lunch to let the pup out and feed her. So, I drive 3.3 miles four times a day - which is extremely hard on a vehicle. I'm very easy on my truck when driving, but I rarely get above 35mph. I hadn't noticed any abnormal shifting or roughness recently, but my truck was obviously crying for some attention. I figured I'd go ahead and change the tranny fluid again since it couldn't hurt.

The fluid had only the slightest tint of brown to it, so it wasn't burnt. The mag drain plug had what I would call a normal amount of gray sludge on it, so that didn't alarm me, either. 3.3 to 3.5ish quarts came out and I put a full four quarts back in. After a test drive, I checked the fluid and it was a smidge below the top line (right where I wanted it to be). The truck does seem to shift a little faster and is a little more smooth, but those have been the typical results I've seen after regular fluid changes. The flashing "D" has not returned at all, either, as I said before.

I know this could be a multitude of things like the solenoids or pressure switches, but does anyone think it could have been caused simply by the low fluid or some contamination on one of the switches? The last thing I want to do is take it to the dealership and have them charge me $60-100 in diagnostic time to either tell me there's nothing wrong or that they need to replace a bunch of overpriced parts on a guess. Should I just continue driving and have it looked at if it comes back?
 
I posted re: my experience with the flashing "d" on the RL elsewhere here, but Ill pipe in here as well. Had the flashing "d" early on - pre 100k miles. happened once or twice, then never came back. never had it diagnosed or remembered to mention it to a tech.

Im still running the original transmission.

YMMV
 
May not be related but Pilots and RLs are close. My wifes pilot had the same thing two years back. An internet search said the most likely (common enough) problem was the tranny S3 switch; many folks advised to also replace the S4 switch/ plus their two crush washers. I ordered all for less than a dealer service scan (under $100).

They were both mounted externally on the tranny, the physically lower one (S3?) leaked fluid, so be quick. I replaced them both in about 30 min. Problem never returned.

As I recall, the explanation was that these switches sense the internal pressure(s) and control when shifts occur. I'd think low fluid Could equal wrong pressure so that may be what you have going on.

Another note: this 2005 Pilot is now over 170K, and still on its original factory fluid. Runs like a top.

Just remembered: neither of the two switches had markings to distinguish which was which, but I'm thinking they had a color marking which matched what was original equipment. Be careful you don't mix them up if you chose to go this way.
 
May not be related but Pilots and RLs are close. My wifes pilot had the same thing two years back. Internet search said the most likely (common enough) problem was the tranny S3 (I believe) switch; enough folks advised to also replace the S4 switch/ plus two crush washers. I ordered all for less than a dealer service scan (under $100).

Replaced them both in about 30 min. Problem never returned.
That's pretty much what I've read, too. Seems to nearly always be the 3rd or 4th switch. There are plenty of how-to guides on here and I found a few pages from the FSM that were posted on it. If it ever comes back, I'll likely just go ahead and replace these two like you said. For now, everything seems to be completely normal. The truck never gave any indication that something was majorly wrong, so it could very well just be a fluke. Being that the tranny fluid was low could have had something to do with it, too. I'm a stickler for maintenance and I guess I just overlooked the proper amount of fluid to put in the last time. Now that I'm topped up and have 4 fresh quarts in there (this is my 7th drain and fill since I've owned the truck), I don't believe the issue will come back. I did notice that my OLI is down to 20%, so I'll be doing the oil within the next few weekends as well. As an example of how well the MM works, I would ALWAYS get the 15% oil life remaining indicator at between 6300 and 6500 miles and would sometimes take it to 7000 before it reached 5%. I changed the oil in August last year at the 6500 mile mark and 10%. At that same time is when we fully moved into our new home and I started my very short commutes. I'm currently at 4600 miles on this oil and I'll expect the 15% indicator any day now. Goes to show you that these trucks know when they need it changed and it DOES work.
 
Ian, I saw a flashing D on our Pilot 2 or 3 years ago. I immediately pulled over and shut down. I cranked right back up and haven't seen the flashing D since.

Like chisoxjim said, I'd drive it and not worry about it unless it happens again. At that point, I would probably consider replacing the pressure sensors as Wrascal mentioned above.

I don't really think you have a problem.
 
Ian, I saw a flashing D on our Pilot 2 or 3 years ago. I immediately pulled over and shut down. I cranked right back up and haven't seen the flashing D since.

Like chisoxjim said, I'd drive it and not worry about it unless it happens again. At that point, I would probably consider replacing the pressure sensors as Wrascal mentioned above.

I don't really think you have a problem.
That's pretty much what I was thinking, too. After researching on here and seeing that many have had it very temporarily and have never had it come back again, I'm not worried about it. I'm chalking it up to the low fluid and maybe a bit of contamination in one of the switches that is no longer there. It took a little more convincing of my wife to reassure her that my transmission wasn't going to drop out of the truck, but everything seem ok now. Thanks, gents.
 
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