I got the maintenance due soon message on the dash, 15% oil life. I'll be taking it to the dealer for this first oil change (5500 miles). Should I ask for synthetic oil or synthetic blend? When I had the factory tonneau installed when the truck was new, I asked the service advisor which oil they recommend. All he said was "it's up to you". He didn't know what the factory puts in the engine to begin with.
Full synthetic vs. synthetic blend
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Re: 1st Oil Change Synthetic Not Used??
Must have been in a different branch of the military. Not the way we did it in Vietnam on the aircraft carrier. I'm sensing a different generation here.
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It’s known as technology and progress. Not to be confused with disinformation put out by the oil companies.
It’s known as technology and progress. Not to be confused with disinformation put out by the oil companies.
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It's why some of us are still preserved to fly the old round engines. Yes, technology marches on but I'll still see the oil changed every 50 hours.
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Different animal, and you are correct, those need different care procedures and intervals. I was thinking more of turbine engines, and diesels.
Different animal, and you are correct, those need different care procedures and intervals. I was thinking more of turbine engines, and diesels.
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So after being told on the phone (dealership) that the oil honda uses and what is recommended is a synthetic blend, I was told differently today in person at the same dealership.
They told me I must have talked to someone new because all new Honda’s get full synthetic. I asked how do I get a full synthetic change for $35. She advised that but in bulk and that’s what it cost. I asked if she was sure it wasn’t a synthetic blend and she advised no, as well a another service advisor. Both saying full synthetic. Whatever and who knows!?!?!?
The part number for the oil was the same as the one quoted above. Did we ever figure out what that part number is for?
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So after being told on the phone (dealership) that the oil honda uses and what is recommended is a synthetic blend, I was told differently today in person at the same dealership.
They told me I must have talked to someone new because all new Honda’s get full synthetic. I asked how do I get a full synthetic change for $35. She advised that but in bulk and that’s what it cost. I asked if she was sure it wasn’t a synthetic blend and she advised no, as well a another service advisor. Both saying full synthetic. Whatever and who knows!?!?!?
The part number for the oil was the same as the one quoted above. Did we ever figure out what that part number is for?
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The only way you'll ever know is to see the barrel that they pull it out of. It will say on there on the label applied by the manufacturer what it is. No service adviser knows anything other than what they put onto a form (which can say anything).
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The only way you'll ever know is to see the barrel that they pull it out of. It will say on there on the label applied by the manufacturer what it is. No service adviser knows anything other than what they put onto a form (which can say anything).
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Wow, so much stuff going on in just one thread!!!
Wow, so much stuff going on in just one thread!!!
Someone else mentioned it, maybe you, but there are two "full synthetic" oils in 0w-20 from Honda. Dealership I work at only uses the "Ultimate Full Synthetic" in 0w-20.
Very true. Due to the tight margins on most cars and even smaller SUVs, dealerships can't survive on new sales alone, so they HAVE to form lasting service relationships with customers.
OUCH!
Not a Honda part number, as far as I can tell. Could be a partial number, but not likely. Maybe it's a job code/sku?
Already covered, but just to reinforce this. Honda actually has 2 full synthetic oils in 0w-20. As I understand it (could be wrong, can't find the link) the ultimate full syn is 100% PAO (group IV?) synthetic.
man wouldn't THAT be some truth in advertising!
As far as I can tell, the "full synthetic" is supposed to now take the place of the syn-blend. Less expensive than the "ultimate" but still good oil. I suspect it may not be rated for the newer 0w20 turbos, but can't get an answer on that. My dealership only use the Ultimate full syn in 0w20, so I don't have anything to go on there. (HTO-06 spec only applies to 5w-30, i think)
FYI, we've had issues with them in the past and the current batch have a smaller amount of oring/gasket squish before mechanically bottoming out (compared to the A02), and a couple have failed to seal and ejected oil on startup (something the techs haven't seen with the A02).
Synthetic versus Conventional Motor Oil
I own a 2013 Toyota Rav4 and recently sold a 2005 C6 Corvette when purchasing a 2018 Ridgeline RTL-E.
The Rav4 and C6 Vette both called for Mobil 1 Synthetic oil.
What does Honda recommend I use in my Ridgeline?
Also - your thoughts are appreciated?
I own a 2013 Toyota Rav4 and recently sold a 2005 C6 Corvette when purchasing a 2018 Ridgeline RTL-E.
The Rav4 and C6 Vette both called for Mobil 1 Synthetic oil.
What does Honda recommend I use in my Ridgeline?
Also - your thoughts are appreciated?
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Honda 0w20 can also be a synthetic blend, but I would recommend sticking with full synthetic.
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I'm pretty sure that any oil weight that begins with "0" such as 0w20 is full synthetic. If I still changed my own oil, I would use this stuff.
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B07CG38...07CG384GQ/?coliid=I2PEWYUGTAIWL0&colid=3UDV1FCJXFN94&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
I'm pretty sure that any oil weight that begins with "0" such as 0w20 is full synthetic. If I still changed my own oil, I would use this stuff.
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B07CG38...07CG384GQ/?coliid=I2PEWYUGTAIWL0&colid=3UDV1FCJXFN94&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
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Dealer said 100% synthetic.
Dealer said 100% synthetic.
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Honda 0w20 synthetic blend, part number 08798-9036
https://www.amazon.com/Honda-Genuine-Fluid-08798-9036-Synthetic/dp/B007P5RFRO
Or
Honda 0w20 full synthetic, part number 08798-9037
https://www.amazon.com/Honda-Genuin...-20+full+synthetic+oil&qid=1552230217&s=gateway&sprefix=Honda+0w,aps,203&sr=8-7
Either one works, or any preferred oil of 0w20 weight. Just pick which one you prefer.
I like the full synthetic while under warranty, afterwards I’ll just buy Mobil 1 (it’s all just preference).
Honda 0w20 synthetic blend, part number 08798-9036
https://www.amazon.com/Honda-Genuine-Fluid-08798-9036-Synthetic/dp/B007P5RFRO
Or
Honda 0w20 full synthetic, part number 08798-9037
https://www.amazon.com/Honda-Genuin...-20+full+synthetic+oil&qid=1552230217&s=gateway&sprefix=Honda+0w,aps,203&sr=8-7
Either one works, or any preferred oil of 0w20 weight. Just pick which one you prefer.
I like the full synthetic while under warranty, afterwards I’ll just buy Mobil 1 (it’s all just preference).
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Interesting, on Amazon three Honda 0w20 oils are offered;
(1) described as a full synthetic blend
(08798-9036 0W-20 Full Synthetic Blend Motor Oil);
(2) described as ultimate full synthetic
(08798-9038 5W-20 Ultimate Full Synthetic Motor Oil);
(3) described as a blended full synthetic
(08798-9063 0W-20 Blended Full Synthetic Motor Oil).
Interesting, on Amazon three Honda 0w20 oils are offered;
(1) described as a full synthetic blend
(08798-9036 0W-20 Full Synthetic Blend Motor Oil);
(2) described as ultimate full synthetic
(08798-9038 5W-20 Ultimate Full Synthetic Motor Oil);
(3) described as a blended full synthetic
(08798-9063 0W-20 Blended Full Synthetic Motor Oil).
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Save the dinosaurs! Buy synthetic!
Save the dinosaurs! Buy synthetic!
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Ah, another oil thread!
Well, as long as we're here . . . . First, with regard to "Honda" motor oil -- i.e., the stuff that's bottled for Honda and sold as "Official Honda Motor Oil" -- each version (the blended oil and the synthetic) is bottled for Honda by ConocoPhillips (one word)(stock symbol "COP"). Identical COP products are bottled for Ford and sold under the Motorcraft name. They are "OK" products, but (IMHO) they are nothing special. Exxon-Mobil (XOM), Royal Dutch Shell (RDS) and British Petroleum (BP) each have better products -- Mobil 1; Pennzoil Platinum; Castrol EDGE -- for similar $ and each has a far better reputation (IMHO, of course). Better chemistry, too. That's not opinion; it's well documented. And for those opinions, I humbly refer the OP to www.bobistheoilguy.com under "Oil Analysis Reports."
Ah, another oil thread!
Well, as long as we're here . . . . First, with regard to "Honda" motor oil -- i.e., the stuff that's bottled for Honda and sold as "Official Honda Motor Oil" -- each version (the blended oil and the synthetic) is bottled for Honda by ConocoPhillips (one word)(stock symbol "COP"). Identical COP products are bottled for Ford and sold under the Motorcraft name. They are "OK" products, but (IMHO) they are nothing special. Exxon-Mobil (XOM), Royal Dutch Shell (RDS) and British Petroleum (BP) each have better products -- Mobil 1; Pennzoil Platinum; Castrol EDGE -- for similar $ and each has a far better reputation (IMHO, of course). Better chemistry, too. That's not opinion; it's well documented. And for those opinions, I humbly refer the OP to www.bobistheoilguy.com under "Oil Analysis Reports."
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How on Christmas Eve, even in 2019, we get these 'Which Engine oil is better' Threads????
Ever heard of the search function?? It is on the top right. Hell, you can even Google this.
Use what you are comfortable and please do not post threads such as this in the future.. Please!!
Those are my thoughts.....................
How on Christmas Eve, even in 2019, we get these 'Which Engine oil is better' Threads????
Ever heard of the search function?? It is on the top right. Hell, you can even Google this.
Use what you are comfortable and please do not post threads such as this in the future.. Please!!
Those are my thoughts.....................
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Well, I'll give you my opinion on the best oil. . . . . . . . . . . . Just kidding.
Well, I'll give you my opinion on the best oil. . . . . . . . . . . . Just kidding.
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