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#1 ·
Ok, new member here, and I'm going to confess I have been very derelict, irresponsible, and anyone can add whatever adjectives they want to describe my behavior, but I just had the timing belt replaced on my '06 RL (original owner) at 183,500 miles. When I took it to my local shop, the owner shook his head and he showed me a display he had of old timing belts he actually had displayed on the wall, the oldest being 206,000 and it was cracked and clearly about to go. He added that he felt confident he would be adding my belt to the wall of shame. I asked him to save my belt which he did. The mechanic who did the service came out and gave the belt to me after completing the service and I swear, the belt showed absolutely no wear, none, it looked practically new! Now, I know that all maintenance should be done per the service manual and I know the risks I took, and I am in no way advocating anyone not follow the correct replacement schedule. But...interesting fact none the less.
 
#3 ·
When mine was changed at the recommended 105K, the belt looked like it just arrived in the mail from Amazon. Sixty-two thousand miles since then, the current belt looks like new, too. I'm convinced they can probably go a routine quarter million miles, but Honda -- being more safe than sorry -- wants you avoid the potential risks if they do snap -- bent valves, cylinder head or camshaft damage, and possibly piston and cylinder wall damage.
 
#6 ·
Best quote I found explaining why mere visual inspection of older timing belts -- insofar as deciding to replace -- is playing with fire.

"Yeah, just because you can't see cracks, doesn't mean they aren't forming. and it could be in a spot you just can't see (ie. around the bottom of the motor, or in the very corner of the tooth). and you have to remember, that thing is made of rubber (synthetic or otherwise) and some other stuff, that doesn't last for ever -- it IS 7 years old, you wouldn't leave a set of tires on your car that long, even if they "looked good" now woulda? CHANGE IT!"

Would've, should've, could've isn't what you're going to want to hear if your belt snaps. Given the havoc a break can wreak, failure -- as they say -- is NO option.
 
#27 · (Edited)
What? I have tires on my Motorcycle that are 20 years old!!! Changed tires on my R/L in 2011. Don't even think about them! They're good for another 15 years. I park indoors, keep them inflated properly and don't drive a lot.
Also have a 1995 Toyota Tercel with 136,000 km's on it. I had the timing belt changed at 100,000 km's and 17 years. Was still in good shape.
With the cost of a failure being more than the value of the vehicle, I decided to have it done. It was about $400.00CDN..
My Ridgeline is an '07 model with 97,000 miles, right now. Will probably relent and change it soon. If I do the work, it'll be about $300.00 CDN.. Rock Auto has an AISIN kit with water pump, etc..
Though 17 years may be too long, 7 years is too short! I'd say change at 120K miles or 12 years. whichever comes first.
 
#8 ·
In the 10 years I've been on this forum, I can't recall a single timing belt failure on a Ridgeline right off hand - premature or neglected. I have seen many stories where people reported exceeding the recommended replacement interval by tens of thousands of miles or more on borrowed time without an issue. I've never kept a vehicle long enough to hit the replacement interval, but if I did I'd promptly replace it. I'm not a gambler.

The only timing belt that ever broke on me was in an '86 Ford Escort that was about 4 years old with 40K at the time. Fortunately, it was a non-interference design and the timing belt was easy to replace. Like motor oil, belt materials have come a long ways since the 70s. :)
 
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#10 ·
More detail in another post from the same member:

Got my 2006 Ridgeline to 345,000 miles before the third timing belt failed, a week before I was going to replace the belt.
If this owner followed the replacement interval exactly, the timing belt service would have been due at 105,000, 210,000, and 315,000. They could have gone 30,000 miles over or the second belt may have been replaced at 240,000 and the third service was just becoming due. :)
 
#12 · (Edited)
I would trust the original belt that came installed from the factory to last 200k 10/12 years. Low mileage but old belts tend to show more cracks then a regular driven car. SITTING IS BAD FOR MOST VEHICLES! I would not recommend any brand (maybe honda but its probably not same brand/manufacturer as original) replacement after that though.
 
#14 ·
Exactly my point though. 30,000 miles is a heartbeat of time seems like more of a risk then I'd want to take. $1,000 timing belt replacement vs. $30,000+ new car...hmmmmm
 
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#21 ·
As a pilot, I just don't stre witch recommended maintenance. I do it when it's suggested and before if a potential problem appears. Crashes aren't fun.
i agree with you on preventive maintenance. my 07 with 211k miles just had the second belt replaced. i don't like being on the side of the road.

i take off in my ridge and drive 5oo to 1000 miles in a weekend road trip, sometimes with little notice.

so far, it has never let me down.
 
#23 ·
I'm in the same boat as you...My 2007 RTL only has 44K on it...That's 10 years so far for me..I was thinking i can shoot for 80K but that could be another 10 years and i would never feel comfortable driving around with a belt that old.

It's obvious mileage takes a much bigger toll on the belt than time. Whats not obvious is how much time we have left.
 
#24 ·
My threshold for pain was 75k & 10yrs old. But I live in the desert, I know what hot dry heat does to rubber items.

I've actually read that driving it less (low mileage and more years) is worse than driving it more (high mileage and less years).

YMMV
 
#28 ·
I’m with you a 100% on keeping your vehicle garaged, cuz in my mind belts, tires, vehicle interior, paint job, etc, don’t stand any better chance than a life indoors. But I think religiously garaging your vehicle to a certain extent colors your opinion of those who don’t, believing stories of parts (tires, timing belts, etc.) rotting or compromising over time are anecdotal. There are so many factors in differing combinations (extreme climate, rodent activity, salt exposure, etc) that promote rot and rust that say that ain’t so.

I’m in no position to judge driveway or roadside parking since I admit we’ve always pampered our vehicles. Heck, they cool their heals under a ceiling fan every time we pull into the garage. With Florida’s pounding, UV blasting heat, I’m not willing to chance delaying a timing belt replacement on a truck I pile 15000 miles on every year, even while garaged.

While I’ve never had a set of tires last 7 years (I wish), I do have two 5 year old Michelin leftovers that LOOK to be in near perfect condition hanging on the wall. My timing belt LOOKED fine 4 years ago, but I still changed it at 105K miles.
 

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Let me guess why you need all those long clamps - your cabinets look great!!