[zepada]

IanRTL has a good point. I experienced this just last week when checking my son's spare on his 01 CRV. The spare was flat and the leak was in the valve stem. I went to 3 different tire shops and none of them would touch the tire due to age. I explained to each the spare has never been on the road but still, each stated the tire was over 6 years old and they would not touch the valve stem/tire due to age. Each stated rupture as a liability issue upon inflation. As a youngster, I had a friend who was inflating an older spare that ruptured and took his left eye in the process. I ended up replacing the spare.

Since I keep Hondas for up to 10 years, makes me think I should consider changing spare at the 6-7 year point.

 

[kevin_stevens]

IanRTL has a good point. I experienced this just last week when checking my son's spare on his 01 CRV. The spare was flat and the leak was in the valve stem. I went to 3 different tire shops and none of them would touch the tire due to age. I explained to each the spare has never been on the road but still, each stated the tire was over 6 years old and they would not touch the valve stem/tire due to age. Each stated rupture as a liability issue upon inflation. As a youngster, I had a friend who was inflating an older spare that ruptured and took his left eye in the process. I ended up replacing the spare.

Since I keep Hondas for up to 10 years, makes me think I should consider changing spare at the 6-7 year point.

Yeah, except that was me who specifically said that you should check the age of your spare, not Ian. :act030: People don't change their spares, especially those emergency spares, while they go through tire sets every few years.

In the real world this is more of a concern for your emergency spare than your regular tires.

KeS

 

[speedlever]

Those pictures of tire casings on the road made me think of retreads being thrown off, not new tires coming apart.

 

[kevin_stevens]

Those pictures of tire casings on the road made me thing of retreads being thrown off, not new tires coming apart.

@ :40 sec. :act024:

http://youtu.be/auszi9bUr3o

KeS

 

[IanRTL]

Yeah, except that was me who specifically said that you should check the age of your spare, not Ian. :act030: People don't change their spares, especially those emergency spares, while they go through tire sets every few years.



KeS

Congratulations. Will one of the moderators please send Kevin a certificate of appreciation? Thanks... :act002:

 

[Ourfarm09]

Those pictures of tire casings on the road made me think of retreads being thrown off, not new tires coming apart.

The biggest reason retreads come off is because of under inflation and over loaded. The excess heat destroys the bond.

 

[COOPER_ABQ]

So I guess I'm in the minority, I have a full size spare, and that when I do my tire rotations, I have them rotate ALL 5 tires, I paid for it, might as well get some good use out of it!

 

[speedlever]

Seems a smart way to maximize your investment in tires. Since I just have the compact spare, I'm not troubled by the extra effort to put 5 tires in rotation.

 

[feetdry]

So I guess I'm in the minority, I have a full size spare, and that when I do my tire rotations, I have them rotate ALL 5 tires, I paid for it, might as well get some good use out of it!

'Wish I could do that too. Alas, my winter tyres are a lot different than my summer tyres.....and the wheels are different too. 'Guess I need 2 full size spares to put into the rotation. On second thought, forget it, it's too complicated.

 

[IanRTL]

So I guess I'm in the minority, I have a full size spare, and that when I do my tire rotations, I have them rotate ALL 5 tires, I paid for it, might as well get some good use out of it!

What's your rotation pattern for the five tires?

 

[COOPER_ABQ]

I learned about this when I had my Chevy Suburban 2500 4x4, its called a "rearward" cross, primarily used for AWD and 4WD vehicles.

The spare goes to the RR
the RR goes to the RF
the RF goes to the LR
LR goes to the LF
and the LF goes to the spare position.

Going on 2.5 years and 4 rotations later, never an issue with vibration, pulling, out of balance, uneven wear, or TPMS sensors.

 

[JadedSoulX]

I learned about this when I had my Chevy Suburban 2500 4x4, its called a "rearward" cross, primarily used for AWD and 4WD vehicles.

The spare goes to the RR
the RR goes to the RF
the RF goes to the LR
LR goes to the LF
and the LF goes to the spare position.

Going on 2.5 years and 4 rotations later, never an issue with vibration, pulling, out of balance, uneven wear, or TPMS sensors.

Thanks for this :act035::act035::act035:.

 

[Ourfarm09]

I learned about this when I had my Chevy Suburban 2500 4x4, its called a "rearward" cross, primarily used for AWD and 4WD vehicles.

The spare goes to the RR
the RR goes to the RF
the RF goes to the LR
LR goes to the LF
and the LF goes to the spare position.

Going on 2.5 years and 4 rotations later, never an issue with vibration, pulling, out of balance, uneven wear, or TPMS sensors.

This rotation pattern has been around for years. At least 35 since I started working and not just for AWD 4wd.

 

[laserguy]

5 tire rotation! That is a lot of work, and I would assume they need to be rotated more often for even wear. Meaning more work.

 

[COOPER_ABQ]

I would have to agree Ourfarm, but I only found out about it in early 94 when I had bought the suburban.

Laser, its just one more tire, besides its not that much work for me, when DT does it because I have the lifetime rotate and balance.:act035:

 

[IanRTL]

I would have to agree Ourfarm, but I only found out about it in early 94 when I had bought the suburban.

Laser, its just one more tire, besides its not that much work for me, when DT does it because I have the lifetime rotate and balance.:act035:

Now, THAT is where the LR&B would certainly pay for itself. The 5-tire rotation is pretty interesting to me. I would think you'd need to do it every 5000 miles or so to keep the tread depths on all five tires within 1/32nd of each other. In any case, it does make sense even though you need to rotate more.

Just out of curiosity, do you re-torque your lug nuts after you get your truck back from the tires being rotated? The shop I use just uses impact guns to put the lugs back on. Some are super tight and others, not so much. I always make sure to retorque to 94 ft/lbs right after I get it back.

 

[feetdry]

I must live in a different world. The chain where I buy my tires rotates and balances them for free and have since I've been buying tires from them for the last 30 plus years. They also are religious about torquing them after snugging with the air gun. For all those years I've been rotating every 5000 miles.

 

[IanRTL]

I must live in a different world. The chain where I buy my tires rotates and balances them for free and have since I've been buying tires from them for the last 30 plus years. They also are religious about torquing them after snugging with the air gun. For all those years I've been rotating every 5000 miles.

I bought my tires from a local guy my dad has been using for years. I get my tires rotated for free, too. However, I bought my wife's tires through DTD and had them mounted and balanced at a place close to my office. In this case, I don't have any free rotation and balance. They typically offer free rotation coupons, though.

As far as torquing the lugs, I just simply don't trust anyone but myself to do the torque. I always check them all the second I get home from the rotation or from any other service where one or all of the wheels need to come off. They usually aren't way off from where they need to be, but they aren't all of equal torque. Over time, this causes warped rotors and uneven tire wear (to a point). So, I just make sure to check it no matter what.

 

[Ourfarm09]

<<<< do my own rotations.

 

[RustyH]

Here in AZ, you bet your A$$ tires have an expiration date. Anyone driving on tires five years or older is asking for trouble. The summer heat will wreck your tires, hoses, belts anything rubber. My wife's Michilen tires on her Civic SI Hatch look to be in great shape from a few feet away, but a very close inspection shows a lot of tiny mico cracks in the sidewalls and in the tread. The tires are just coming up on five years old and we're in the market for a new set of tires. I've still got a ton of tread left on all four tires, but I'm not going to let my wife drive around on a set of ticking time bombs.